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MFrohike

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125. You got me

Fri Oct 17, 2014, 11:33 PM

Oct 2014

I was citing the later $670b of what the author terms "fiscal support." Two thirds of that was tax cuts.

I'm not really sure why you highlighted the AMT section. Unless my math is way off, you highlighted the fact that 1/12 of the total value of the bill was the AMT change.

As for you comment about paperwork inspectors, I have to admit that I'm completely mystified at your attitude. Hundreds of thousands of workers got screwed by being intentionally misclassified. This wasn't an Enron-style scheme of extreme complexity. It was the usual bullshit of calling them independent contractors while exercising full control over their work. It's a pretty easy scheme to spot, but nobody could be bothered.

In addition, the GAO reported in 2011 that $24B was given to companies that owed federal taxes. Seriously? Does no one do their homework in Washington? Is it really that hard to make a determination?

Looking at the blatant frauds that occurred with Klain's "oversight" of the stimulus funds, I have no idea why anyone would think he's competent at anything but self-promotion. This picks reeks of "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job."

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BREAKING: Obama names Ron Klain Ebola Czar [View all] MoonRiver Oct 2014 OP

So Gramps McCain got his wish. Will the GOPers now complain about another "czar"? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #1

I never understood why we have Czars in the U.S. of A. Atman Oct 2014 #2

It's an annoying term, but it's something the media came up with The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #5

the media? librechik Oct 2014 #13

The use of the term predates the '80s by about 50 years. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #15

yeah, by then they figured it was sanitized and nobody would notice. librechik Oct 2014 #16

I don't think appointed officials like the media or 'folks' to call them 'Czars' Sunlei Oct 2014 #53

Right? Whatever happened to "Advisor"? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #7

His title is Response Coordinator. "Czar" is a media construct. (nt) pinto Oct 2014 #35

That is what it is. The media. but somehow Thanks Obama! LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #120

Same folks who came up with Homeland, I daresay. n/t dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #72

How about Shogun? badtoworse Oct 2014 #87

A lawyer. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #3

Dear Ceiling Cat, you are right. He's a lawyer. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #6

He's not even a lawyer with medical expertise TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #11

I don't know anything about this guy, but The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #14

Okay, I'll give you that. Thanks for the pep talk. You are probably correct. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #17

regretfully I agree DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #25

Most of the ones I've known and dealt with liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #41

That is exactly the point I've been trying to make. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #47

Wouldn't have hurt, though, to get a sompetent manager with SOME medical background. WillowTree Oct 2014 #50

Yeah, that's the way I feel. There aren't any non-doc people around with Nay Oct 2014 #83

Good point. nt RiffRandell Oct 2014 #62

They need a manager who is also a doctor Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #84

I am with you on that. The guy doesn't have to get into it with medical knowledge LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #121

what is the political obsession in the US with "czars"? KittyWampus Oct 2014 #4

They have "czars" in Britain as well. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #8

Newspeak. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #9

Why a political operative and not someone with experience in medical administration? bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #10

There's more to this situation than just medical management. MineralMan Oct 2014 #18

He's a fucking lawyer with no health experience. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #22

I agree a strong manager is badly needed in this situation bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #23

far better would be a manager with medical expertise cali Oct 2014 #31

Perhaps. Perhaps not. MineralMan Oct 2014 #36

Agree on both points. 840high Oct 2014 #123

An attorney is not a manager. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #54

I confess that I know very little about this person. MineralMan Oct 2014 #57

He's a political opeative. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #59

Chiefs of staff are management positions. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #102

Maybe he managed something somewhere - large LiberalElite Oct 2014 #73

He is a political operative. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #76

He managed the stimulus after it passed geek tragedy Oct 2014 #112

Derp. He was chief of staff to Biden and Gore. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #77

Chief of staff to two VPs MFrohike Oct 2014 #113

Only to people who don't inform themselves. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #115

HEH MFrohike Oct 2014 #117

Was waiting for the Solyndra talking geek tragedy Oct 2014 #118

Again, HEH MFrohike Oct 2014 #119

Yes, Klain is to blame because he didn't spend 100% geek tragedy Oct 2014 #122

You got me MFrohike Oct 2014 #125

Bonus points for the bogus Katrina reference in geek tragedy Oct 2014 #126

Why, thank you MFrohike Oct 2014 #127

He'll probably spend all his time answering stupid JoePhilly Oct 2014 #38

Served as chief of staff to both Gore and Biden. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #12

Which means he's a political operative. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #58

Yes, I am part of a taxpayer-funded operation to promote Ron Klain. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #64

Not even close. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #69

Czar deutsey Oct 2014 #19

Me too. As tired as I am of "Homeland". nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #20

Ron Klain according to wiki - TBF Oct 2014 #21

What is needed in this situation is a good manager, not a doctor. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #27

Is that the latest talking point - TBF Oct 2014 #29

No, it is not a "talking point." It's reality. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #33

The fact that this has not TBF Oct 2014 #37

What "fan club" would that be? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #46

YOUR statement: TBF Oct 2014 #67

You would prefer Ben Carson? geek tragedy Oct 2014 #78

Here's reality for you. TM99 Oct 2014 #39

"a fucking lawyer" you love your Fox talking points geek tragedy Oct 2014 #101

So I guess I got under your skin? TM99 Oct 2014 #108

Your refusal to acknowledge his relevant geek tragedy Oct 2014 #111

Do you know what the word relevant means? TM99 Oct 2014 #128

Robert Oppenheimer 'managed' the Manhattan Project. But Opie was a nuclear KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #51

Howard Dean suffragette Oct 2014 #70

The hair on fire crowd should be embarrassed geek tragedy Oct 2014 #75

Until it does. TM99 Oct 2014 #85

Thanks for the Fox News spin on this. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #86

Are you always such a snarky person? TM99 Oct 2014 #90

Fear-mongering and mindless bashing of geek tragedy Oct 2014 #91

Ah, so exactly as I said. TM99 Oct 2014 #92

You give away your agenda by describing geek tragedy Oct 2014 #93

Wow you are a piece of work -- TM99 Oct 2014 #97

"A lawyer who worked on an economic stimulus geek tragedy Oct 2014 #98

Again with the non-sequitur's. TM99 Oct 2014 #99

He is not running a public health program or agency. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #100

You are really a piece of work. TM99 Oct 2014 #107

How many people have experience coordinating geek tragedy Oct 2014 #110

Naive? TM99 Oct 2014 #129

what's needed is a manager with healthcare expertise and an understanding of epidemiology cali Oct 2014 #32

How about both? nt Logical Oct 2014 #48

Management is not what lawyers are trained to do either. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #68

I'll second that!!! amandabeech Oct 2014 #82

Why do you insist on ignoring his 12 years geek tragedy Oct 2014 #94

The hospital in Texas has reputable managers MFrohike Oct 2014 #114

If I've got the right guy, wiki says his congressional experience is with insurance HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #66

Stupid shit. Again. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #24

If we had a Surgeon General Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #26

We have an acting Surgeon General. n/t cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #30

I wondered why we hadn't heard from the "Second in Command" KoKo Oct 2014 #40

What's he acting like? Iggo Oct 2014 #61

The Invisible Man. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #63

. Iggo Oct 2014 #65

I'm fine with the choice. A coordinator and manager of the Laurian Oct 2014 #28

It's Klain, not Klein. cali Oct 2014 #34

Seriously, What the Fuck, Mr. President? Marrah_G Oct 2014 #42

I'm entirely confident, given the time between idea and appointment... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #55

thank you for making me smile :) Marrah_G Oct 2014 #56

I'm with ya. n/t cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #60

plus 1 Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #95

This is an administrative, not a research, post. nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #74

I'm sorry. This is caving. Tatiana Oct 2014 #43

I agree, we don't need one Marrah_G Oct 2014 #44

Oh boy that proves he is a communist, socialist... Historic NY Oct 2014 #45

Just last week John McCain demanded the appointment of an ebola "czar." The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #49

Maybe appoint someone with a degree in Public Health rusty fender Oct 2014 #52

That makes far too much sense. nt TBF Oct 2014 #71

+1. Obama never fails to disappoint when it comes to appointments. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #88

Not Robin Cook? Damn! KamaAina Oct 2014 #79

Oh boy. liberalmuse Oct 2014 #80

A Surgeon General would be nice, too... CTyankee Oct 2014 #81

Dr. Klain?! maced666 Oct 2014 #89

We need to stop appeasing batshit crazy republicans! Rex Oct 2014 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #103

And exactly WHY do you think I am judging him? MoonRiver Oct 2014 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #105

So how much power goes with this position? scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #106

why not Dr. Howard Dean? grasswire Oct 2014 #109

Yep. 840high Oct 2014 #124

Welp MFrohike Oct 2014 #116