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In reply to the discussion: If the Democrats lose Congress in Nov [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)45. Don't know about that. Remember the meme being used that both parties are the same:
A GOP Senate's First Target - Elizabeth Warrens Consumer Protection Agency
For years, House Republicans have been trying to gut her greatest accomplishment.
By Erika Eichelberger - Sep. 26, 2014

If the GOP wins the Senate, they'll no doubt use the opportunity to push through a range of measures that are kryptonite to Democratic voters - new abortion restrictions, limits on the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to combat climate change, a relaxation of the rules reining in Wall Street's worst excesses...
Half of their work is already done. The House has passed a bill that would limit the bureau's power by replacing its director with a five-member panel, and subjecting its budget to the congressional appropriations processmeaning that hostile lawmakers could starve it to death. (Unlike most federal agencies, the bureau is bankrolled by the Federal Reserve, an effort to free it from the whims of partisan politics.) House Republicans have also introduced legislation to let other financial regulators overturn CFPB rules, to eliminate a fund the bureau uses to compensate consumers who've been defrauded by an institution that's gone belly-up, and to restrict the kind of data the bureau may collect from consumers. (Republicans have charged that the CFPB's collection of credit data is a violation of privacy, even though the bureau does not collect any personal details the consumer doesn't volunteer.)...
A Republican-controlled Senate would also likely try to eviscerate portions of the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform act. In 2011, Shelby introduced a bill to beef up the requirements that force banking regulators to conduct cost-benefit analyses prior to issuing any new rule - a significant hurdle. Last year, the House passed a handful of bills to deregulate derivatives, often-opaque banking products that have been demonized as "financial weapons of mass destruction." In June, House Republicans passed a bill chipping away at consumer mortgage protections..
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/republican-senate-would-gut-elizabeth-warren-consumer-protection-bureau
Many say voting doesn't matter. It didn't matter to some in 2010, and it won't matter this year. And it's pretty pervasive.
The media attacks are on the Dems, not the GOP. I don't know anyone IRL who disdains the Dems a as much as some here, but they have to be like that IRL wherever they are and they are discouraging other from voting daily.
If we lose the Senate, we're done. Just flat done. That article says it all.
I will prepare for the worst, this GOP is not like any other we've seen. They will do these things and starve the government until it's helpless. No one seems to care so I guess it won't hurt them when all of thise reactionary stuff finishes the USA off. And not for something better.
Some in media love Sanders and Warren, but they won't give them the tools to work with unless people vote. I just don't see it happening.
For years, House Republicans have been trying to gut her greatest accomplishment.
By Erika Eichelberger - Sep. 26, 2014

If the GOP wins the Senate, they'll no doubt use the opportunity to push through a range of measures that are kryptonite to Democratic voters - new abortion restrictions, limits on the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to combat climate change, a relaxation of the rules reining in Wall Street's worst excesses...
Half of their work is already done. The House has passed a bill that would limit the bureau's power by replacing its director with a five-member panel, and subjecting its budget to the congressional appropriations processmeaning that hostile lawmakers could starve it to death. (Unlike most federal agencies, the bureau is bankrolled by the Federal Reserve, an effort to free it from the whims of partisan politics.) House Republicans have also introduced legislation to let other financial regulators overturn CFPB rules, to eliminate a fund the bureau uses to compensate consumers who've been defrauded by an institution that's gone belly-up, and to restrict the kind of data the bureau may collect from consumers. (Republicans have charged that the CFPB's collection of credit data is a violation of privacy, even though the bureau does not collect any personal details the consumer doesn't volunteer.)...
A Republican-controlled Senate would also likely try to eviscerate portions of the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform act. In 2011, Shelby introduced a bill to beef up the requirements that force banking regulators to conduct cost-benefit analyses prior to issuing any new rule - a significant hurdle. Last year, the House passed a handful of bills to deregulate derivatives, often-opaque banking products that have been demonized as "financial weapons of mass destruction." In June, House Republicans passed a bill chipping away at consumer mortgage protections..
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/republican-senate-would-gut-elizabeth-warren-consumer-protection-bureau
Many say voting doesn't matter. It didn't matter to some in 2010, and it won't matter this year. And it's pretty pervasive.
The media attacks are on the Dems, not the GOP. I don't know anyone IRL who disdains the Dems a as much as some here, but they have to be like that IRL wherever they are and they are discouraging other from voting daily.
If we lose the Senate, we're done. Just flat done. That article says it all.
I will prepare for the worst, this GOP is not like any other we've seen. They will do these things and starve the government until it's helpless. No one seems to care so I guess it won't hurt them when all of thise reactionary stuff finishes the USA off. And not for something better.
Some in media love Sanders and Warren, but they won't give them the tools to work with unless people vote. I just don't see it happening.
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what you're implying is because they weren't sufficiently progressive in your estimation..
wyldwolf
Oct 2014
#1
The fact that so many don't even register to vote indicates that they are not motivated by the
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#73
Russ won three times, lost in the teabagger wave of 2010. In 2012 another progressive ...
Scuba
Oct 2014
#38
The game is actually becoming more and more about getting your base to turn out...
Hippo_Tron
Oct 2014
#28
Meanwhile, 50% of eligible voters will stay home because neither Party offers them anything.
Scuba
Oct 2014
#39
Oh, there's a difference all right. One party works for Wall Street, Big Oil and other ....
Scuba
Oct 2014
#85
Yes, over 60 elected Democrats ENDORSED Christie in NJ. Christie's campaign used that
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#81
Yeah, it's amazing how many political analysts are consistently wrong, yet
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2014
#64
+1,000. The DEMS are PAID to "not learn the right lessons." How stupid do they think we are?
blkmusclmachine
Oct 2014
#15
Bad analysis. The lesson they should learn is embrace progressive views and stop hiding w/ the DLC
on point
Oct 2014
#3
Dems control the Senate and the WH. Not the TP. And two people are not 'lots of liberals'.
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#48
I am not familiar with the VOTING RECORDS of ALL those names. I judge people by their
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#82
Don't know about that. Remember the meme being used that both parties are the same:
freshwest
Oct 2014
#45
And if they win the lesson they'll learn is that progressives will vote for them no matter how bad
Fumesucker
Oct 2014
#6
Notice wyldwolf's avatar: Clinton. There's nothing the Clintons like more than knee-capping
blkmusclmachine
Oct 2014
#13
+1. And the "newspeark" gets increasingly tortured and strained, to convince us "war is peace,"
villager
Oct 2014
#29
Which sounds like what they're doing now and have been doing since the Clintons arrived.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2014
#14
this is some simplistic stuff, Jerry Brown is going to win , Democrats are not all the same
JI7
Oct 2014
#17
Dems do not and did not stay home in 2010. Independents stayed home. No party can win
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#49
IMO Democrats will vote becaue they are not ignorant of the situation we are in. If we stay home
jwirr
Oct 2014
#23
I agree with your prognostication of outcome, but not the reason. The Democrats
ballyhoo
Oct 2014
#24
The ruse would be blown by the first person to put frigging laser beams on it's frigging head.
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#33
Will I see members here saying "stolen election(s)" if the Republicans win the Senate?
BKH70041
Oct 2014
#30
It will be because we're competing in states that Mitt Romney won by 15-20 points
Hippo_Tron
Oct 2014
#31
Grimes afraid to admit she voted democratic and she's running as a democrat. How far
B Calm
Oct 2014
#36