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49. Dems do not and did not stay home in 2010. Independents stayed home. No party can win

Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:08 PM

Oct 2014

without Independents. Now please explain why almost all Progressive Dems held their seats in 2010 while Blue Dogs lost?? I'll explain it for you. Independents wanted real Dems not right leaning Third Wayers. Dems did go out to vote, they always do, but Indeps sent the message that the Dem Party refused to acknowledge, provide Real Dems or we Independents will stay home.

Stop preaching to those who vote no matter how hard they have to hold onto their noses. Deliver that message to the most important voting bloc at this point and then listen to what they have to say to you, Independents. If you keep attacking those who DID vote, then it will not by the voters' fault if Dems lose, it will be THIS tactic which refuses to try to attract the Independent vote while blaming it all on those who DID and DO and WILL vote.

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If the Democrats lose Congress in Nov [View all] edhopper Oct 2014 OP

what you're implying is because they weren't sufficiently progressive in your estimation.. wyldwolf Oct 2014 #1

+1 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #4

The fact that so many don't even register to vote indicates that they are not motivated by the Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #73

Or, it could mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #74

Well, of course hard right voters won't change their minds. alp227 Oct 2014 #11

wonder where they were when RUss Feingold was running he last time around and lost JI7 Oct 2014 #18

Russ won three times, lost in the teabagger wave of 2010. In 2012 another progressive ... Scuba Oct 2014 #38

Nope. Jenoch Oct 2014 #44

I think you're both right to some extent. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #63

There are too many people who Jenoch Oct 2014 #72

The party in the White House almost always loses seats in mid-terms Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #86

The game is actually becoming more and more about getting your base to turn out... Hippo_Tron Oct 2014 #28

Meanwhile, 50% of eligible voters will stay home because neither Party offers them anything. Scuba Oct 2014 #39

+1 leftstreet Oct 2014 #46

Anyone who tells you there is no difference between the parties is your enemy. aquart Oct 2014 #83

Oh, there's a difference all right. One party works for Wall Street, Big Oil and other .... Scuba Oct 2014 #85

Anyone who tells you there is no difference between the parties is your enemy. aquart Oct 2014 #83

Explain this: NJ is a BLUE state. Democrats are in the MAJORITY in NJ. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #47

The Dems endorsed Christie?!?!?!!! What.The.Fuckity.Fuck.Fuck. kath Oct 2014 #76

Yes, over 60 elected Democrats ENDORSED Christie in NJ. Christie's campaign used that sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #81

Not in the least. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #53

Wyldwolf likes to tell that lie again and again LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #57

Gee, you're so smart! wyldwolf Oct 2014 #62

Yeah, it's amazing how many political analysts are consistently wrong, yet Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #64

That's exactly the "lesson" that their corporate sponsors want them to "learn" villager Oct 2014 #2

+1,000. The DEMS are PAID to "not learn the right lessons." How stupid do they think we are? blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #15

Bad analysis. The lesson they should learn is embrace progressive views and stop hiding w/ the DLC on point Oct 2014 #3

That is what edhopper Oct 2014 #8

Your OP came through loud and clear. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2014 #9

yes, that's why Jerry Brown will win , if only the candidates from Texas, Kentucky JI7 Oct 2014 #19

Please give me your winning democratic platform? Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #20

How about you give me yours first? BillZBubb Oct 2014 #55

The DLC doesn't exist IronLionZion Oct 2014 #34

Dems control the Senate and the WH. Not the TP. And two people are not 'lots of liberals'. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #48

How many liberals is "lots"? IronLionZion Oct 2014 #59

I support Progressive Democrats. What are you doing? sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #65

These people exist: IronLionZion Oct 2014 #75

I am not familiar with the VOTING RECORDS of ALL those names. I judge people by their sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #82

Same group different name. Link... madfloridian Oct 2014 #87

Don't expect the same from Wellstone ruled Oct 2014 #5

Don't know about that. Remember the meme being used that both parties are the same: freshwest Oct 2014 #45

+1000 sheshe2 Oct 2014 #78

Why, thank you, sheshe! freshwest Oct 2014 #79

We lost in 2010 because of moderates, not progressives LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #58

And if they win the lesson they'll learn is that progressives will vote for them no matter how bad Fumesucker Oct 2014 #6

They've already set the stage ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #7

The very first post on this thread illustrates your point perfectly. neverforget Oct 2014 #10

Notice wyldwolf's avatar: Clinton. There's nothing the Clintons like more than knee-capping blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #13

"Third Way"only goes 1 way --> to the Right --> blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #12

+1. And the "newspeark" gets increasingly tortured and strained, to convince us "war is peace," villager Oct 2014 #29

Which sounds like what they're doing now and have been doing since the Clintons arrived. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #14

Yep... And In My Waning Years... I Will Start Voting... WillyT Oct 2014 #16

this is some simplistic stuff, Jerry Brown is going to win , Democrats are not all the same JI7 Oct 2014 #17

The pukes push unapologetically to the right and their policies suck. Ed Suspicious Oct 2014 #21

We'll never be allowed to know. Scuba Oct 2014 #40

If progessive Dems lose due to lack of support, and RW GOPrs win instead baldguy Oct 2014 #22

Dems do not and did not stay home in 2010. Independents stayed home. No party can win sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #49

IMO Democrats will vote becaue they are not ignorant of the situation we are in. If we stay home jwirr Oct 2014 #23

I agree with your prognostication of outcome, but not the reason. The Democrats ballyhoo Oct 2014 #24

That's what the REPUBLICANS will say.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #25

You know Spitfire, if we would start a ballyhoo Oct 2014 #27

The ruse would be blown by the first person to put frigging laser beams on it's frigging head. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #33

Will I see members here saying "stolen election(s)" if the Republicans win the Senate? BKH70041 Oct 2014 #30

We're talking about the guys in DC.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #32

if they didn't learn from 2008 and 2010, they're not trying Doctor_J Oct 2014 #26

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Oct 2014 #41

+1000. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #42

Exactly, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #50

Boring... kentuck Oct 2014 #54

How did they run in 2006 and 2012? IronLionZion Oct 2014 #61

It will be because we're competing in states that Mitt Romney won by 15-20 points Hippo_Tron Oct 2014 #31

If two politicians agree, you only need one of them. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #35

That's it in a nutshell, imo. ballyhoo Oct 2014 #43

Grimes afraid to admit she voted democratic and she's running as a democrat. How far B Calm Oct 2014 #36

I disagree with you about ALG... kentuck Oct 2014 #51

I hope I'm wrong. I would love to see the turtle out of office. B Calm Oct 2014 #67

It has nothing to do with shame, imo... kentuck Oct 2014 #70

When Romney lost in 2012 that was the message the tea party sent to the GOP establishment - from pampango Oct 2014 #37

That's the lesson they seem to 'learn' every single election. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #52

Perhaps they think it will give the big money guys MORE reason to fund them? BillZBubb Oct 2014 #56

If we lose, it will be because we didn't go to the polls. aquart Oct 2014 #60

And we didn't go to the polls because.... kentuck Oct 2014 #66

^^^This!^^^ eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #68

My wife and I voted yesterday at the county courthouse! B Calm Oct 2014 #69

or Got Turned Away at the Polls AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #77

Well, Hush Your Mouth!! asjr Oct 2014 #71

True, It's Almost Like They Fear Their Base RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #80