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LisaL

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40. Maybe they were too calm in Africa.

Reply to FLPanhandle (Reply #34)

Sat Oct 18, 2014, 01:08 PM

Oct 2014

And it's spread.
Now people are dying there on the streets.
Ever thought about that?

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It wasn't until Pham was diagnosed with Ebola that health officials decided [View all] boston bean Oct 2014 OP

Really should view the whistleblower's interview with Cooper on CNN TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #1

Duncan lied when he first went to LukeFL Oct 2014 #77

I'm pretty sure he didn't know! TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #90

And other reports said he did know LukeFL Oct 2014 #91

To me I think he was a terrorist LukeFL Oct 2014 #92

That is OTT, don't you think? Jamastiene Oct 2014 #97

Because terrorists do that and don't care LukeFL Oct 2014 #100

That's nuts. pangaia Oct 2014 #102

Yes terrorist and the government won't tell LukeFL Oct 2014 #104

Are you sure you are on the correct website? pangaia Oct 2014 #105

I don't think he was a terrorist, but he was selfish itsrobert Oct 2014 #106

You may be right, but pangaia Oct 2014 #107

Why wouldn't why? Because I am not being LukeFL Oct 2014 #108

Politically correct? pangaia Oct 2014 #110

Makes you wonder what the factors are that make the CDC look so rusty. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #2

the CDC is just like any other government agency Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #4

Wonder what the ratio of GOP federal managers is to Dem federal mangers? I bet.... nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #10

Well, I suppose we could just leave it to the private sector... calimary Oct 2014 #20

Private sector? Nope. Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #21

Military-style accountability to the private sector, too. calimary Oct 2014 #45

I agree 00%. America needs a socialist government that would eliminate all the greed that currently Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #59

How does one eliminate greed? pangaia Oct 2014 #103

Government agencies have been getting Turbineguy Oct 2014 #28

^^^^ THIS. And infiltration is exactly what it is - by enemy agents. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #79

Except Iraq and Afghanistan. There the military geniuses get promoted upward until KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #29

You make a very good point. Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #49

CDC also cannot make the state do anything Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #33

Perhaps from experience of all the other Ebola outbreaks in the USA? LynneSin Oct 2014 #6

Yes, we'll handle it, because there is no other option. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #11

Arrogance? Curmudgeoness Oct 2014 #9

We reached the same conclusions. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #12

Yes. LisaL Oct 2014 #13

By the time you get up to being the top muckety-muck customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #35

That's correct, and I keep posting it over and over again. Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #3

Best one-paragraph takedown of those who have so internalized KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #31

I find this very disturbing LeftInTX Oct 2014 #50

As a retired RN, this did not surprise me at all. Loki Oct 2014 #5

The bottom line is paramount for a for-profit hospital like Texas Presbyterian. SunSeeker Oct 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2014 #44

Texas Presbyterian is classified as a non-profit hospital. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #52

Thanks. I guess the CommonDreams article is wrong. SunSeeker Oct 2014 #54

CommonDreams is wrong. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #55

I think the real problem is fee for service, not whether it's a "non-profit." SunSeeker Oct 2014 #89

Having worked in hospitals for 20 years, I agree. So does my MD husband mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #95

Thank you for your service. SunSeeker Oct 2014 #109

and now they are asked to sign an agreement to not go to any public place, but nobody mentions magical thyme Oct 2014 #7

I don't know if it is possible or not, but one thing that could be very helpful boston bean Oct 2014 #8

TV Stations in the DFW Metro have reported they the staff is still being paid. Texas businesses DhhD Oct 2014 #15

I have heard several times that everybody on staff who is now quarantined is still being paid. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #27

I think that we need to be careful about who we think was supposed to make the rule and who was jwirr Oct 2014 #14

Republicans certainly want Government OUT, of the private for profit business of a hospital DhhD Oct 2014 #18

CDC's guidelines on PPE were insufficient. LisaL Oct 2014 #24

Yes, I know but the hospital did not train their staff with them so it was as good as having no jwirr Oct 2014 #30

if they did train their staff with them it's still as good as having no guidelines TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #99

If you -REALLY BELIEVED- the nurses were protected from contagion HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #17

If only the President had picked a Surgeon General candidate corkhead Oct 2014 #19

Actually, it's technically known as "snark" ... DrBulldog Oct 2014 #26

your lesson on Interweb etiquette is duly noted "/s" corkhead Oct 2014 #48

please calm down, Ebola is not contagious until symptoms are present Heather MC Oct 2014 #22

Mr. Duncan's symptoms certainly were present when he was in Dallas hospital. LisaL Oct 2014 #23

What's that count up to now?? JoePhilly Oct 2014 #32

In US? Two nurses officially diagnosed with Ebola. LisaL Oct 2014 #38

yes he wasn't contagious until symptoms were present Heather MC Oct 2014 #61

They had nurses caring for other patients other than Duncan boston bean Oct 2014 #62

has any one else gotten sick, besides the two healthcare workers? Heather MC Oct 2014 #63

LOL. You can't even admit how dangerous and stupid that was to be boston bean Oct 2014 #64

you're upset about something that DIDN'T happen Heather MC Oct 2014 #65

It did happen. boston bean Oct 2014 #66

No other Patient in the hospital has been diagnpsis with Ebola Heather MC Oct 2014 #67

What I said happened, happened. boston bean Oct 2014 #68

Ok but all the what ifs and OMG speculations are not necessary at this point Heather MC Oct 2014 #70

Because it is apalling such a thing occurred. boston bean Oct 2014 #71

I feel like allowing the nurses to take care of other patients put them at risk LeftInTX Oct 2014 #51

Why worry about Ebola when ... DrBulldog Oct 2014 #25

And how many other patients did Pham infect? FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #34

So far, true customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #39

Maybe they were too calm in Africa. LisaL Oct 2014 #40

Lots of people freaking out because they think people are freaking out. boston bean Oct 2014 #41

I did. 840high Oct 2014 #94

With the exception of MSF, a lot of people- local officials to the WHO- were like "meh" for way too Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #96

The bad news is that Duncan's illness has resulted in a HUGE number of people who have been exposed Chemisse Oct 2014 #36

Well, Pham had the virons on her somehow and could have easily boston bean Oct 2014 #37

I don't think it is so much luck, as the need to have high numbers of the virus Chemisse Oct 2014 #42

If Ms. Pham had contamination on her skin boston bean Oct 2014 #43

Did these nurses go from patient to patient while treating Duncan. Chemisse Oct 2014 #46

Yes, they did treat others on the same shift they were treating Mr. Duncan. boston bean Oct 2014 #47

Exactly kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #84

People who don't have any symptoms can't transmit the disease Warpy Oct 2014 #53

Was Duncan contagious? YES. boston bean Oct 2014 #56

If the hospital suits insisted they treat other patients the same day Warpy Oct 2014 #57

Well, that is what happened. boston bean Oct 2014 #58

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch Warpy Oct 2014 #60

So poorly run, and probably so thoroughly contaminated by now, I voted for kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #86

It also persists in vaginal fluids for up to 3 months. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #85

Didn't you get the memo? We're not supposed to talk about Ebola. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #69

ebola, ebola, ebola.... boston bean Oct 2014 #72

No patients are at risk until a nurse is symptomatic. morningfog Oct 2014 #73

You get a grip on facts please. boston bean Oct 2014 #74

Good lord. Your 1-3 are stupid. morningfog Oct 2014 #75

Really, you think it's not possible? boston bean Oct 2014 #76

That didn't happen. It's silly. Absolutely silly. morningfog Oct 2014 #78

To you maybe. It's infection control 101. boston bean Oct 2014 #80

How many people bein treated in the hospital have been infected? morningfog Oct 2014 #81

You don't find it appalling that it occurred? boston bean Oct 2014 #82

Would you want a nurse who had just worked on an Ebola patient to come treat you right after? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #83

It doesn't take obvious bloody smears. All it takes is a single virus particle, which can survive kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #88

If they were contaminated enough to get ill, it's entirely possible. Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #98

And what about their families? LukeFL Oct 2014 #93

Epidemiology FAIL. Those nurses, with their poor PPE, were also caring for other patients kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #87

Mr. Duncans exposed family is out of isolation this Monday. Sunlei Oct 2014 #101