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Tsiyu

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22. People are choosing to stay out of the traditional job market

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 11:27 PM

Apr 2012

For some, it's the inability or lack of desire to jump through the degrading hoops of applying for the available jobs; for some, the pay is dismal, the benefits nonexistent; for others, they have skills or access to resources that can eliminate much of the need for outside income (paid for home and vehicle, growing one's own food and producing one's own power, heat, water.)

I am working two jobs and not making ends meet. Slowly I would like to create a job where I work as hard for my own interests as i do for others.' The wage slavery leaves little time for creativity, though.

It's completely understandable why no one wants to work for a jerk. For less-than-subsistence wages and no benefits.

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A RWer told me he had problems getting employees ... he said "People don't want to work!" [View all] zbdent Apr 2012 OP

Maybe he means his white buddies. There are plenty of honest people looking for work all kinds southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #1

I bet he makes a BIG deal out of "personal responsibility" too......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #2

Don't forget the screaming fits and ugly behavior Mopar151 Apr 2012 #43

Hmm so she is going to be the butt of jokes now. dkf Apr 2012 #3

All adult conservatives are fair game. Zalatix Apr 2012 #6

Lol. Here certainly. dkf Apr 2012 #7

Yes. You have a problem with that? 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #29

Not really. Anyone can take a shot at whoever they wish. dkf Apr 2012 #34

Hidden post? Rex Apr 2012 #37

"Watch out, you dirty leftist, I'm a big badass alerter." (My interpretation, at least.) 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #42

I didn't see any hidden threads and what is more funny Rex Apr 2012 #44

Oooooo. Tell me how it went. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #38

If hand wringing was an Olympic sport DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #69

what's the job RainDog Apr 2012 #4

Here's the ironic thing ... it's paving ... zbdent Apr 2012 #51

So, really, "They" don't meet his qualifications. killbotfactory Apr 2012 #71

HE didn't create the job ... the local government, spending the money, is creating the jobs ... zbdent Apr 2012 #80

Maybe they don't want to work for wages less than they need to survive. n/t Cleita Apr 2012 #5

What is the alternative? Not making any money? dkf Apr 2012 #8

If you have some money to live on like unemployment so you can find a decent job, Cleita Apr 2012 #10

That's what my brothers friend said after losing his 6 figure job. dkf Apr 2012 #14

No one said he should duplicate his salary, however, he has the right to demand a living Cleita Apr 2012 #15

But it can be temporary til something else comes up. dkf Apr 2012 #18

Why work your butt off? ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #28

Well hopefully your efforts will be rewarded in the right position. dkf Apr 2012 #31

I work as an independent contractor ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #33

Good for you! I love that you did this! dkf Apr 2012 #35

Unfortunately I need to make about twice what I'm making. ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #36

I am extremely hopeful that the economy is picking up. dkf Apr 2012 #39

I hope so. ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #87

Jumping in here to say I do agree with you mainer Apr 2012 #61

Anecdotal evidence = nothing. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #25

Nope can't say I do. dkf Apr 2012 #27

But you might hesitate to take an $8/hour job 2 months after losing your job Nikia Apr 2012 #32

I would probably go down a decision tree, not reaching the $8/hour jobs til later. dkf Apr 2012 #45

You think getting unemployment is sitting around? Cleita Apr 2012 #50

Be careful here, right wingers will point out treestar Apr 2012 #20

To which I would reply, "makes people unwilling to work for slave wages." Cleita Apr 2012 #48

RWs insist on thinking of unemployment insurance benefits treestar Apr 2012 #65

Nice To See You Plugging For Wages At Or Below Subsistence, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2012 #12

She does this a great deal it appears HangOnKids Apr 2012 #23

People want to work. Employers don't want to pay real wages. Initech Apr 2012 #9

thread win. .. n/t annabanana Apr 2012 #11

Why would anyone wanna work for this toad stool? Bennyboy Apr 2012 #13

Every time I've ever heard a right-winger JoeyT Apr 2012 #16

Not only that - I bet he shows what a jerk he is by the eighth spoken word of the interview. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #26

well, I ran across him the other day, and overheard him talking ... zbdent Apr 2012 #82

I think he's full of BS. You know what I think he's really doing? Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #93

Is he implying that only Liberals are the unemployed? n/t Sheepshank Apr 2012 #17

I'm not a mindreader, so I cannot say who exactly he was talking about ... zbdent Apr 2012 #52

It is due to unemployment benefits treestar Apr 2012 #19

It's pretty hard to find people where I work madville Apr 2012 #21

so, what's your line of work, and where are you located? zbdent Apr 2012 #83

People are choosing to stay out of the traditional job market Tsiyu Apr 2012 #22

I've been looking for cooks.. pipoman Apr 2012 #24

Are you offering a quality salary ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #30

yes pipoman Apr 2012 #49

What do you consider "quality pay" for a cook? Tsiyu Apr 2012 #53

It is very competitive with other pipoman Apr 2012 #57

Food service is hard work for sure Tsiyu Apr 2012 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Apr 2012 #72

Here is the language of the ad pipoman Apr 2012 #74

Why not just answer the question? DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #70

Because I respect my employee's privacy more than to publish pipoman Apr 2012 #73

How would anyone here know (or care) DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #76

I guess you can guess all you like.. pipoman Apr 2012 #84

So... the wages are low DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #86

Maybe you should re-read the subthread pipoman Apr 2012 #90

The ad seems to state entry level, part time Tsiyu Apr 2012 #77

Promote the dishwashers killbotfactory Apr 2012 #63

I have done this in some cases..tapped out now.. pipoman Apr 2012 #79

Long hours of work and convenient fast and junk food have wiped out a lot of cooking skills killbotfactory Apr 2012 #92

I think this type of job is hard to fill ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #75

as an aside... Phentex Apr 2012 #55

I stop by and read regularly pipoman Apr 2012 #56

I remember you well and we recently had a thread from someone... Phentex Apr 2012 #59

I think cooking is a skill that could land one a job anywhere in the world mainer Apr 2012 #60

Yep, pipoman Apr 2012 #81

If I didn't already have a career, I'd love a stint in a commercial kitchen mainer Apr 2012 #91

Are there any area tech colleges offering cooking classes? Nikia Apr 2012 #85

once I wrote a poem hfojvt Apr 2012 #40

In most cases, there can be a few factors at work Nikia Apr 2012 #41

What's the cheap bastard paying? Nt guitar man Apr 2012 #46

No, he is experiencing a backlash Aerows Apr 2012 #47

bubble economy = bubble jobs Locrian Apr 2012 #54

Don't forget the "right-to-work" (for less) craze Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2012 #67

I hear that also from my niece mainer Apr 2012 #58

Your niece's account does not pass the rudimentary smell test. First of all, workers don't qualify coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #62

That's what I wondered. It seemed weird that you'd get unemployment if you quit. mainer Apr 2012 #66

Without casting any aspersions on your niece, I wonder whether she may coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #78

People don't want to work for nothing DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #68

Well, I know that people who are working "don't want to work" ... zbdent Apr 2012 #89

They don't, that is why he has to pay them Taitertots Apr 2012 #88

Not for him they probably don't Aerows Apr 2012 #94