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Nye Bevan

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40. Is it OK to use plantation houses for anything?

Reply to ncjustice80 (Reply #32)

Sat Oct 18, 2014, 09:29 PM

Oct 2014

Or should they all be demolished?

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Frankly, Scarlett, you weren't just selfish, you were a damned racist, too [View all] UTUSN Oct 2014 OP

One can easily notice this carries over into a wider notion as well. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #1

+1 enlightenment Oct 2014 #2

Well said. silverweb Oct 2014 #3

K&R northoftheborder Oct 2014 #6

+1 I wonder if the greedies of today would have given up slavery or would they just have moved merrily Oct 2014 #7

They didn't have to move the slaves, brer cat Oct 2014 #10

That's kind of what inspired my question. merrily Oct 2014 #11

So obvious, it's sad this should even have to be reiterated, though you did it well. K&R here. freshwest Oct 2014 #25

+1 million. America still has people who, even though they are getting paid, are in effect slaves. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #30

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #65

Yep. You ain't just whistlin' Dixie, nt Zorra Oct 2014 #87

Ouch! That's going to leave a mark! hedgehog Oct 2014 #4

Not disputing your point, but if you are going to be honest about it, the women had little to do world wide wally Oct 2014 #5

Women everywhere have always had an important role in shaping society. For one thing, they always merrily Oct 2014 #9

Actually, in slave-holding households, just like most rich households from medieval times and on.... moriah Oct 2014 #55

There is a difference between doing the work and instilling values. merrily Oct 2014 #57

What, second generation households didn't exist? moriah Oct 2014 #58

My post does not say no second generation households at all existed, does it? New immigrants merrily Oct 2014 #62

More like until they had the option not to swear to "obey" their husbands. moriah Oct 2014 #84

I thought you were seriously debating that women had no role in raising kids. merrily Oct 2014 #85

The point was that women had little power in the past, even over their own households. moriah Oct 2014 #86

The Belle was just as trapped as the slaves were Warpy Oct 2014 #8

Some women did own slaves, and there was no great rush to manumit. Orsino Oct 2014 #70

The Belle, by very definition, was an ornament Warpy Oct 2014 #75

Scarlett O'Hara was no belle? Orsino Oct 2014 #79

Not after she stole her sister's fiance Warpy Oct 2014 #80

I think a whole lot of southern belles' facades crumbled in the war. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #82

Who is Scarlett? chrisa Oct 2014 #12

O'Hara baldguy Oct 2014 #14

Oh. Thanks! chrisa Oct 2014 #16

O'Hara--from Gone With The Wind. nt truebluegreen Oct 2014 #15

Thanks! chrisa Oct 2014 #17

Scarlett bigwillq Oct 2014 #60

Southern Belles are the targets of today's two minutes hate? Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #13

I read somewhere that serfs had more time off than modern workers do bettyellen Oct 2014 #18

They did for a long time Warpy Oct 2014 #51

My company's foreign staff gets a lot more time off than us, and although they're paid lower..... bettyellen Oct 2014 #83

Probably yes. Unless the feudal lords actually owned the peasants. kwassa Oct 2014 #19

The memories of American slavery are much more alive, and therefor hurtful, in America... Orsino Oct 2014 #71

Must be rather easy to live in a world in which social criticism is inferred as Orwellian melodrama. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #88

Holy crap, that's an awesome rant! gollygee Oct 2014 #20

The costume has possibilities... pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #21

ROFL gollygee Oct 2014 #22

I would hope they would oberliner Oct 2014 #28

Ended in 1978 gollygee Oct 2014 #39

Reruns in the 80's and 90's oberliner Oct 2014 #42

Oh gollygee Oct 2014 #43

I'm a bit younger than that and remember it. Fawke Em Oct 2014 #68

Loved her show pipi_k Oct 2014 #72

Thanks LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #23

Imagine if the South had won the Civil War? Octafish Oct 2014 #24

Those ornaments were all over the country - not just the South oberliner Oct 2014 #26

Yes, very popular in the fifties on tract, middle class lawns for those who were into lawn maddiemom Oct 2014 #74

I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about that tomorrow. pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #27

I remember those when I was a kid, even in Calif. but to be fair Cleita Oct 2014 #34

Thats a horse hitching post,fyi. riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #35

They must have been left over from an earlier time because Cleita Oct 2014 #37

Agreed. I have no idea why any "modern" city person would have one other than they're a racist riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #38

Two homes in a nasty metro suburban neighborhood near me way way north of mason Dixon line lunasun Oct 2014 #52

Isnt this the guy who said we should bully nerds? aikoaiko Oct 2014 #29

Yes, it is. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #32

I think its a little more complicated than that. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #36

Is it OK to use plantation houses for anything? Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #40

IMO gollygee Oct 2014 #41

The majority should be demolished. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #45

No... We don't destroy history...... Adrahil Oct 2014 #48

Monuments glorifying enslavers and traitors arent history. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #49

So tear down the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial? Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #50

Don't forget gladium et scutum Oct 2014 #53

Lol so you support monuments glorifying people that launched open rebellion against the US ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #54

We should bulldoze all the California Missions too. Throd Oct 2014 #64

Lol I dont know why people who identify as progressive would oppose bulldozing the monuments at a ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #69

Bulldozing unpleasant history is a dangerous precedent. Throd Oct 2014 #73

Simply because I don't support official approved histories. Adrahil Oct 2014 #78

Uhhh, is there a different history then the one where ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #81

I would have preferred laws preventing their erection in the first place... Adrahil Oct 2014 #77

The problem is that such "cleansing" is subjective. Adrahil Oct 2014 #76

. stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #66

Ummmmm....... Can't agree. NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #47

Oh Maggie! You are the most raciest! Can I ring that belle!! LuvLoogie Oct 2014 #31

Most "Old South" crap is racist Corruption Inc Oct 2014 #33

+1000 Tom Ripley Oct 2014 #44

yup La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #61

As Paula Deen is my witness, I'll never be hungry again! betsuni Oct 2014 #46

I've called my customer service persona "doing the Southern Belle routine".... moriah Oct 2014 #56

Wow, well said! "Ah for the lovely days when we were rich because we OWNED people!" DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #59

K&R! I like this! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #63

If the south had won, they'd be an aristocracy, not a democracy. The landed gentry alfredo Oct 2014 #67