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28. I wonder if he's at all outraged

Sun Oct 19, 2014, 11:08 AM

Oct 2014

Deal won't help poor people with medical needs. Seems like a very big deal to me and this guy worked in a hospital...

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/02/24/3322621/nathan-deal-medicaid-expansion/
How One Governor Is Trying To Avoid Responsibility For Denying Health Care To 600,000 Poor People

Sounds like he's buying into the fearmongering. Or maybe watches faux.

At this point, Jason Carter, Michelle Nunn, and John Barrow have nothing to do with decisions made by this admin. I don't quite understand his sudden change of heart. Maybe some rwnj got to him.

Edit to add:

Battle Over Ebola Travel Ban: Health Officials Call It a Big Mistake
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/battle-over-ebola-travel-ban-health-officials-call-it-big-n228666

snip//

Many health experts agree that a ban isn’t necessary.

"You're not preventing the movement of the population anyway," said Harvard epidemologist John Brownstein. "Many of these countries have very porous borders."

And there's no evidence that travel bans have any lasting effect, he said. Brownstein co-authored a study that found that the airport closures in the eastern U.S. after 9/11 did delay the onset of flu that year, but only by two weeks.

"Ultimately these pathogens find their way around the globe," said Brownstein.

A ban on travel could also hurt the local economies in Africa.

snip//

"And if you're banning air travel, would there also be a call to ban ship travel? Any port of call is banned as well?" Brunner asked, referring to potential ways around a travel ban.

If you're going to start isolating people who don't even show symptoms, he said, "Where does it stop?"

First published October 19th 2014, 4:52 am
Amy Langfield

Amy Langfield is a New York-based reporter covering travel and leisure companies for CNBC.com.

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My neighbor burned his yard signs this morning. [View all] Savannahmann Oct 2014 OP

Aren't we all disgusted to a degree? wyldwolf Oct 2014 #1

Ebola "precautions" aside, remind me of all the issues where Democrats are on the unpopular side. merrily Oct 2014 #2

We're not. Which is why it boggles my mind as to why the vacation plans of a handful of visa-holders Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #162

"We're not" on the unpopular side of issues other than ebola? Savannahman posted we are. merrily Oct 2014 #174

You don't think much of the Nations of Africa do you? MattBaggins Oct 2014 #175

3 Countries, where transmission is currently out of control. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #185

I'm a little hung over, but this makes no sense NightWatcher Oct 2014 #3

It's the travel ban, the Cordon Sanitaire as they called it a century ago Fumesucker Oct 2014 #12

and the person in the OP is mad at the Dems running for office because??? NightWatcher Oct 2014 #14

It sounds like the gentleman in the OP is mad at the party that holds the Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #19

I'm sure the repubs would've handled things sooo much better NightWatcher Oct 2014 #26

You're comparing abstractions to demonstrated facts. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #33

Obama refuses to protect us pscot Oct 2014 #34

THIS!!!! highmindedhavi Oct 2014 #121

100% true laundry_queen Oct 2014 #197

Remeber homegirl Oct 2014 #67

As well as 9/11. nt RiffRandell Oct 2014 #76

I am still scratching my head at the fact LukeFL Oct 2014 #52

I agree with you. A travel ban is elementary. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #64

I've heard that there are no direct flights from Liberia to the US. nt freedom fighter jh Oct 2014 #68

Ummm not true.. Duncan flew straight from LukeFL Oct 2014 #70

No he did not. freedom fighter jh Oct 2014 #79

Okay but government can track these LukeFL Oct 2014 #81

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #112

I see LukeFL Oct 2014 #126

He flew Liberia to Brussels to DC to DFW. n/t tammywammy Oct 2014 #83

Ummmm not true at all. If you continue to believe that, words fail me. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #109

Yes Dorian Gray Oct 2014 #193

Maybe it's because there are no direct flights from Liberia to the US? n/t justgamma Oct 2014 #74

But the government can track people LukeFL Oct 2014 #80

How so unless the US employes people there... Historic NY Oct 2014 #155

The state department issues travel visas. A Liberian with a Liberian passport -like Duncan- Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #160

We can isolate those unimportant people MattBaggins Oct 2014 #179

Why is letting people vacation over here essential to us offering assistance over there? Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #186

They are just vacationing. MattBaggins Oct 2014 #188

You seem tense. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #190

How about... cannabis_flower Oct 2014 #104

"Obama WONT stop flights from Liberia"? There are NO flights from Liberia. uppityperson Oct 2014 #108

How many direct flights from Liberia come to the US? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #113

You are thinking about this way too much MattBaggins Oct 2014 #177

Which doesn't work. alarimer Oct 2014 #86

I have been saying. Only when it's Africa MattBaggins Oct 2014 #180

Common Sense measures that only matter when an illness is coming out of the "dark continent" MattBaggins Oct 2014 #176

OP won't come right out and say it, but it's a close-the-borders post. Orsino Oct 2014 #144

OK, no flights from Africa, but what about the people who connect through London, Amsterdam??? NightWatcher Oct 2014 #147

Yep. Deal with the society we have, not the society that we never could have had. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #148

"The society we have" requires foreign travelers to have something called a passport, and a visa. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #165

Will we do this to all asians next flu season? MattBaggins Oct 2014 #181

The Flu is essentially impossible to contain. And it's generally not 70% lethal. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #187

There are a lot of medical professionals in this country Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #4

So you look to Belize, Mexico and Ivory Coast for good government health policy, not Canada, the EU, muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #5

Yeah, that struck me too tularetom Oct 2014 #9

Yeh, don't get it, but whatever. Even people with credentials are sometimes not the sharpest. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #38

Got it in one. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #18

George Steinbrenner once said, "Never sit around discussing things rationally when the situation brewens Oct 2014 #82

I'm going to go with the expert consensus truebluegreen Oct 2014 #131

No shit sharp_stick Oct 2014 #37

willfully agitated paranoia heaven05 Oct 2014 #77

I think the UK is part of the EU. former9thward Oct 2014 #47

Misleading headline - not a ban, but a recommendation, and for travel *to* those countries muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #57

British Air has suspended flights. former9thward Oct 2014 #60

No, my post is accurate; there is no ban muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #63

Yeah believe in the goodness and honesty LukeFL Oct 2014 #84

So, you'd stop healthcare workers from returning to their own countries muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #89

Yeah Eric Duncan was a filthy little liar MattBaggins Oct 2014 #182

Travel TO...should be AVOIDED-UNLESS ESSENTIAL" uppityperson Oct 2014 #110

Poster implied travel is normal. former9thward Oct 2014 #114

OP is about banning travel into USA, your article's headline says "ban", text doesn't. uppityperson Oct 2014 #115

Main airline in UK is British Air. former9thward Oct 2014 #118

Not at all, simply addressing 1 point. GB has not banned flights from W Africa. uppityperson Oct 2014 #122

Rec'd if I could... fadedrose Oct 2014 #49

And you think we don't qualify as a country with poor health care? iemitsu Oct 2014 #94

On that level, no muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #96

We need to have a procedure for monitoring those coming from iemitsu Oct 2014 #105

You're confusing two different things. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #169

No, what I'm saying is that the governments of the major countries are better at setting policy muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #172

Did he ever express disgust with Reagan back in the 1980s bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #6

I didn't know him then. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #55

Don't lie -- that will make things much worse Yupster Oct 2014 #7

Most people in the US want restrictions. It has become political. boston bean Oct 2014 #8

A lot of Democrats are really pissed off, me included. Can't tell the R's from the D's LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #10

Like Barrack Obama, right? Maineman Oct 2014 #73

I was really thinking of the corporate lawyers like the clintons LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #99

Yeah, it's sooooo hard to tell the "Rs from the Ds" Cha Oct 2014 #133

Methinks... 99Forever Oct 2014 #11

It's called name recognition and it got Bush elected. nt IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #22

Nonsense. 99Forever Oct 2014 #25

He made it as far as he did because people recognized his name. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #29

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #42

lots of old people are going to recognize that name hfojvt Oct 2014 #85

That ^^^ tavernier Oct 2014 #23

Did your neighbor explain why ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #13

Republican ads are really good at stoking irrational fear and causing knee jerk reactions. Maineman Oct 2014 #78

Republicans across the board suffered because one Republican said "real rape" Savannahmann Oct 2014 #170

Cool Story, Bro. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #15

I just served on a jury for this reply. PeaceNikki Oct 2014 #27

Someboy actually alerted on that post? avebury Oct 2014 #36

Yup. 5-2 to leave. I was in the majority. PeaceNikki Oct 2014 #39

Thank you. RiffRandell Oct 2014 #58

Me too, one of the 5 fadedrose Oct 2014 #142

It basically calls the OP a liar. I think that kind of post is obnoxious. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #50

lol, if "obnoxious" was a hideable offense, there would be like 3 posters left on DU. PeaceNikki Oct 2014 #59

cool post, bro. dionysus Oct 2014 #119

Now you've done it! I'm alerting.. you're calling him a LIAR.. or something.. Rofl Cha Oct 2014 #134

Alerters are weird Warpy Oct 2014 #136

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #90

Ask him (or yourself) why we don't have a confirmed Surgeon-General. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #16

Harry Reid will not allow a vote until after the election. former9thward Oct 2014 #54

And who cut the budget from the CDC.. Hint.. the ones who are screaming the loudest.. Cha Oct 2014 #138

Cool neighbor story. They're always a fun read. Thanks. Doremus Oct 2014 #17

I don't see how not voting for Nunn and Carter will impact public health policy. Fla Dem Oct 2014 #20

I glad he found an excuse to avoid making a decision. Decision avoiders are great CK_John Oct 2014 #21

What an idiot frazzled Oct 2014 #24

I wonder if he's at all outraged babylonsister Oct 2014 #28

Watch out he may get what he is after if he wants to vote opposite now lunasun Oct 2014 #30

Maybe he is just fed up with the whole system!! And I can't say that I don't logosoco Oct 2014 #31

Why did you introduce Jenoch Oct 2014 #32

No doubt a 'Reagan Democrat' who voted for Ronnie a second time in spite of Reagan's inaction about Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #35

Your neighbor is an idiot sharp_stick Oct 2014 #40

As a GA resident, I thank you. nt RiffRandell Oct 2014 #46

As a member of the human race, I thank you, your neighbor is a brainwashed idiot....76? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #53

this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #98

And somehow he thinks the Rs will do a better job? jwirr Oct 2014 #41

No fucking shit. RiffRandell Oct 2014 #45

Why do you have to 'handle' what he did with his yard signs? RiffRandell Oct 2014 #43

As a citizen of the US.. I thank you, RiffRandell! Cha Oct 2014 #140

There's a lot of noise and misinformation about "travel bans". Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #161

Oh my shenmue Oct 2014 #44

October surprise. ucrdem Oct 2014 #48

As a GA resident, thanks to all that recced this OP. RiffRandell Oct 2014 #51

Consider the source of the Recs.. chance to hate on Dems because some idiot has burned his yard Cha Oct 2014 #141

Nations should be fact-driven, not ignorant-people-driven. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #56

The blame rests with cable TV I think. ucrdem Oct 2014 #62

I agree completely. n/t YvonneCa Oct 2014 #127

Exactly, thank you. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #111

" Do I say my neighbor suddenly went Racist?" WTF? itsrobert Oct 2014 #61

The usual denouncement of people who don't support the Democratic Party. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #65

denouncement by who? itsrobert Oct 2014 #66

I'm not. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #124

Move Cryptoad Oct 2014 #69

Best answer yet! RiffRandell Oct 2014 #72

as an ex Chief Administration Officer he should know the State Gov regulates hospitals Sunlei Oct 2014 #71

Your neighbor.. sendero Oct 2014 #75

I think no signs will come up in the yard. He has moved from signs to nose holding. DhhD Oct 2014 #87

bwhahahaha! Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #88

'Public health protective measure number one' elleng Oct 2014 #91

He didn't just throw them out, people. He BURNED THEM!!!! alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #92

It seems to me that he has other issues besides being pissed off at Democrats. GoCubsGo Oct 2014 #103

To me, it alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #106

Yeah. That, too. GoCubsGo Oct 2014 #154

ROFL Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #123

I suppose he's a big supporter of the DHS then. Barack_America Oct 2014 #93

Never met a hospital administrator that was rational. Hoyt Oct 2014 #95

Thank you very much. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #120

Having worked in the field and seen them go as far as literally praying for a flu epidemic when the Hoyt Oct 2014 #129

It sounds like rational is not the issue, but empathy. mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #139

Yep. It's a screwed up system. Hoyt Oct 2014 #145

Cool story, bro! tabasco Oct 2014 #97

+1 glad someone said finally said it. FSogol Oct 2014 #198

Hell will freeze over if I vote for anybody on this republican ticket in Georgia. Nathan Deal mfcorey1 Oct 2014 #100

Look who we have had to put up with for so long. RiffRandell Oct 2014 #102

Your neighbor actually sounds like a moron. Jamastiene Oct 2014 #101

"All the explanations don't matter". good god. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #107

If the metric is to win over every irrational person, it's an impossible one to meet stevenleser Oct 2014 #116

THIS ^^^ should be its own post... YvonneCa Oct 2014 #128

Oh good. So, this guy's a moron, then. 6000eliot Oct 2014 #117

Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing for the right reason. We were close in this election. But kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #125

Oh really? Dr Dean thinks Ron Klain is a good decision and I'm going with him and others on this.. Cha Oct 2014 #143

I don't believe your story tkmorris Oct 2014 #130

I don't like what can be inferred from your post, so I am going to insult your neighbor, maybe you Township75 Oct 2014 #132

Ask him if he thinks Republicans who cut everything but the military Warpy Oct 2014 #135

"Do I say my neighbor suddenly went Racist?" Brickbat Oct 2014 #137

As I answered above. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #150

So... Do something damaging for public health because... Republicans? Tweedy Oct 2014 #146

The truth is the CDC is not doing their job. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #153

Read the Dallas morning news Tweedy Oct 2014 #156

Now you think you are 'gambling your reputation with the neighbors' RiffRandell Oct 2014 #158

So you would prefer that I lie to get someone to support us? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #166

Mosquitoes are the same as needles? MattBaggins Oct 2014 #183

Silly Question Savannahmann Oct 2014 #194

Experts say 3000 could die in Texas this year.. Not because of Ebola.. because of Rick Perry.. Cha Oct 2014 #149

Your neighbor is an idiot. More contagious than Ebola. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #151

Why do you feel you 840high Oct 2014 #152

Worst. Thread. Ever. Number23 Oct 2014 #157

I have to agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #168

"So how do I handle this?" NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #159

Honestly you want an opinion davidpdx Oct 2014 #163

WaPo: Americans want flight restrictions from Ebola countries. And it�s not close. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #164

Yippy a graph that's tells me Americans don't give a flying fuck about Africa MattBaggins Oct 2014 #184

Because the ONLY way we can help Liberia and Sierra Leone is to not keep their citizens from coming Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #189

I'm not buying it gollygee Oct 2014 #167

Did they at least use the fire to cook you some more egg rolls? snooper2 Oct 2014 #171

"Word will spread" Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #173

Wow, all the yard signs here are coroplast or just a heavy plastic bag material on a flimsy frame. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #178

I seem to remember a lot of posterboard ones. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #191

And this asshole will be allowed to vote ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #192

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #195

So Whatever Became Of Your Nutty Neighbor? ConnorMarc Oct 2014 #196

He died of Hyperbole-bola. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #199