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vi5

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2. The fact is that to most people:
Sun Oct 19, 2014, 07:59 PM
Oct 2014

Republicans are for low taxes, smaller government, strong national security. Across the board. Every candidate with an R after their name.

Argue the fine points all you want but that is their quick, and easily digestible sales pitch that they insist every candidate march lock step with.

Dems are for.....well do you have an hour for us to explain to you in highly parsed terms? And only some of them. And only sometimes. And just less than the other guys.

The sad thing is that I used to be able to sum it up. But no more.

Taxes? Well, we want them higher....but wait.....only on some people......well not really enough to fight for it or anything....you know...whatever we guess.
Government? Well we like it, but only in some cases......and please don't hold it against us.....we just mean sometimes.....or maybe not....who knows.
National security? Sure we're for that too!!
Social Security? Well yeah we're for it but...hey, we're not above buying into the notion that 'We have to do something!" because that's what the very serious people inside the beltway like to hear.
Social Safety Net? Sure we need that, but you know......we hear the deficit is bad too, so.....we're for that.....maybe.

Sure we can look at those other parties and laugh at what they are promoting, but......what exactly is it that we're promoting in a clearly communicated manner that the people can understand and without equivocation know that the Dems will fight for?

The only unequivically good things our party is on the right side of are gay rights, women's rights and abortion rights. And unfortunately our leaders choose to not be full throated on any of those things and are content to let others do the leg work and all too often they are willing to run from their support of those things.

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Bull malarkey RobertEarl Oct 2014 #1
Congratulations on your 8000th post. nt No Vested Interest Oct 2014 #8
Skipping voting is not rebellion, it's surrender. mahina Oct 2014 #20
Yes...It Does Matter So Don't Waste It On Hillary billhicks76 Oct 2014 #34
Love it. jwirr Oct 2014 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #64
Agreed billhicks76 Oct 2014 #32
Simple question. Do you or do you not know know the methods of counting, hardware used and Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #38
Yes. I do. RobertEarl Oct 2014 #47
I note you did not share with us what you know and instead repeat 'last I heard' assumptions Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #79
Your email told enough about you RobertEarl Oct 2014 #89
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #63
when i talk about rigged elections that always favor reps questionseverything Oct 2014 #98
Turnout is everything. riqster Oct 2014 #104
The fact is that to most people: vi5 Oct 2014 #2
+1 Scuba Oct 2014 #3
+2. pacalo Oct 2014 #4
Ouch... +3 Fumesucker Oct 2014 #12
Um, you can go to Democrats.org and see the platform. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #15
Do you mean.. vi5 Oct 2014 #21
Well... Tweedy Oct 2014 #26
I didn't see the platform at democrats.org maybe you could provide a link. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #46
+4 zeemike Oct 2014 #18
Exactly nt abelenkpe Oct 2014 #19
Too many democrats are gutless! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #31
How about the one thing that Rs will never be for: The safety net. jwirr Oct 2014 #41
As I stated in my post..... vi5 Oct 2014 #68
I know the difference between "talk" and actually doing. When it has been obvious that the Rs jwirr Oct 2014 #90
Democrats are for fair taxes, good government, and equality. bhikkhu Oct 2014 #43
It's not hard, but it's way too vague. vi5 Oct 2014 #67
Your criticisms appear much more vague,than do the targets of that criticism. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #80
I guess we'll see, won't we? vi5 Oct 2014 #82
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #65
Tilting at windmills. I think the meme that there are throngs trying to convince rhett o rick Oct 2014 #5
Promote what Democrats stand for.... vi5 Oct 2014 #6
You have a right ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #36
I mean inspiration and motivation to vote for Democrats. vi5 Oct 2014 #83
As I said ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #106
Again, I'm not talking about me vi5 Oct 2014 #112
Americans have a right to vote or not vote. Many choose not to vote. It would help us if rhett o rick Oct 2014 #92
This is what you get when you vote gop.. Cha Oct 2014 #7
Cha... +1,000,000 SoapBox Oct 2014 #23
Hey SoapBox! Cha Oct 2014 #28
I'm a little Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #29
Poor brainwashed thing.. and so proud! Wearing it on her back. Cha Oct 2014 #35
Exactly. Thank you. jwirr Oct 2014 #42
You're Welcome, jwirr~ Cha Oct 2014 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #66
What Cha said... Skidmore Oct 2014 #78
And that is just scratching the surface Cha.. Peacetrain Oct 2014 #94
Exactly, Peacetrain.. just scratching the surface of the difference between Dems and rebubCons. Cha Oct 2014 #103
Thanks.. I have high hopes! Peacetrain Oct 2014 #105
Don't agree with you. And don't pay any attention ballyhoo Oct 2014 #9
Except: OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #11
I don't care who you vote for. It's close to a free country still. You'll have to ballyhoo Oct 2014 #13
It's to laugh. OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #16
This "guy".. Cha Oct 2014 #27
What was that from, she looks like she's royally telling him to go F himself! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #33
I wish I knew, RKP.. Just saw the tweet and evidently they had a meeting recently Cha Oct 2014 #37
More like MFrohike Oct 2014 #49
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Poifect! Fumesucker Oct 2014 #74
All I can say is Andy823 Oct 2014 #25
Yes. We failed. jeff47 Oct 2014 #95
I accept a lot of what you say. But I maintain that the ballyhoo Oct 2014 #97
got a shot of that right here on DU just a short while ago rurallib Oct 2014 #10
so we shouldn't vote for people pushing the same policies the Baggers and liberts are pushing, then MisterP Oct 2014 #14
An example woud be nice. OilemFirchen Oct 2014 #17
Here are two examples: Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #107
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Which party is promising to stop offshoring? abelenkpe Oct 2014 #22
Exactly! Andy823 Oct 2014 #24
This is all Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #30
Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #77
Not just republicans ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #96
Corporate media along with their masters Iliyah Oct 2014 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #72
Nailed it. freshwest Oct 2014 #45
I honestly do not believe anymore that my vote counts. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #48
I have never told someone to not vote. I however have been bullied into voting for someone I didn't liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #50
Just out of curiosity ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #51
Because I have voted straight Democratic ticket for 20 years and I'm tired of the Corporate crap. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #52
The question was ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #53
Having fun trying to trash me because I won't fall in with the party line? liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #54
It's Peacetrain's OP - not mine. NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #55
I'm sorry, I don't have time to do a back and forth with you. I am currently researching the votes liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #56
Well, why choose between the Democrats? NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #57
I probably won't vote for those two position. I haven't decided about the third position. He may liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #58
Do as you please. NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #59
Umm in response 52 I clearly state I don't share my both parties are the same opinion liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #60
In other words ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #61
+100,000 nt Andy823 Oct 2014 #84
finally treestar Oct 2014 #87
That would be funny if this wasn't such a serious issue. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #91
And exactly how ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #99
Both parties are the same and my motivation is my son who both republicans and liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #108
If both parties are the same ... NanceGreggs Oct 2014 #109
+ a million stage left Oct 2014 #101
My local votes count, but my POTUS vote does not count. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #62
I have the same problem Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #110
Without a verifiable paper trail, I have extreme doubt that my vote counts. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #71
Here in Oregon we have paper ballots. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #81
Depress turnout, GOP wins ... its that simple. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #73
Right here on DU; everyday in every way. blue neen Oct 2014 #75
Look no further Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #86
TX info has been posted in TBF Oct 2014 #76
I voted for torturers to be prosecuted, along with criminal bankers Corruption Inc Oct 2014 #85
DU rec for pissing off all the right people... SidDithers Oct 2014 #88
Well my hope is people will think about what they are saying Peacetrain Oct 2014 #93
Your vote will not count. Orsino Oct 2014 #100
Bunch of 'em here on DU tabasco Oct 2014 #102
I am a gerrymandered voter living with additional voter suppression measures. mmonk Oct 2014 #111
I live in the reddest district in Iowa.. Steve King country Peacetrain Oct 2014 #114
Keep browbeating the poor suckers who have to decide between the party that supports woo me with science Oct 2014 #113
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