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LostInAnomie

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91. Yeah, I did in two different ways.

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:00 AM

Oct 2014

1. "TEN YEARS AGO, MASSACHUSETTS INTRODUCED US TO GAY MARRIAGE"

Words tend to mean something. The word "introduced" means: to present (a person, product, etc.) to a particular group of individuals or to the general public for or as if for the first time by a formal act, announcement, series of recommendations or events, etc. Since as you stated down thread the first gay marriage was performed in 1975, it would be impossible to be "introduced" in May, 2004. This is especially true since they were also performed in SF and New Paltz in Feb., 2004.

2. Since gay marriage bans are unconstitutional, the marriages in 1975 and Feb. 2004 were legal.

Even you yourself said down thread "It was legal in Boulder too when it was issued." when you were fighting with LA over if Boulder of SF did it first. You can't have it both ways. They were either legal and your article is wrong, or it wasn't legal when Boulder issued the the marriage certificate and you are just engaging in sophistry to win an argument.

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TEN YEARS AGO, MASSACHUSETTS INTRODUCED US TO GAY MARRIAGE [View all] sheshe2 Oct 2014 OP

And the world hasn't ended, all the straights have not turned gay, married straights RKP5637 Oct 2014 #1

But it's coming, just you wait mythology Oct 2014 #2

... RKP5637 Oct 2014 #5

What about those cats and dogs, and lions and lambs? They're not "gettin' it on" yet? MADem Oct 2014 #101

Oh, that's because they prayed away the gay, but it failed on just humans! RKP5637 Oct 2014 #107

And my heterosexual parents are still married shenmue Oct 2014 #3

... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #7

Thank Goodness .. We've come such a long way for Gay Rights since 2004 when Cha Oct 2014 #4

Hard to believe that was 10 years ago now! sheshe2 Oct 2014 #6

Yay! shenmue Oct 2014 #8

I will check out the music some time, she.. thank you! Cha Oct 2014 #9

I just put on the headphones while I read DU~ sheshe2 Oct 2014 #10

Yeah, it's a good idea.. I'm watching netflix now.. going back and forth between Cha Oct 2014 #11

LOL Iliyah Oct 2014 #12

The sky was supposed to be falling by now!!11! xfundy Oct 2014 #13

Alaska! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #14

Arizona! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #15

Idaho! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #16

And here I thought Sarah and family owned... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #17

"We are one." ~ Bill Hicks Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #31

As allies we help to make it happen. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #81

Well, Sugar bear, you are not going to believe this! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #103

I thought New Paltz, NY was first. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #18

No sheshe2 Oct 2014 #19

Uhhh... isn't Feb. 27, 2004 before May 17, 2004? LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #22

How can the OP ignore this? Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #26

Probably too busy being pissed about having to look up wikipedia links. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #28

They were not barred in MA. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #34

You're the one that got snippy about being wrong. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #37

Yes. February is before May. Why did you say no? What kind of revisionist history are you trying to Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #27

10 years ago on February 12th, San Francisco introduces marriage equality! First in the nation. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #20

You are the 2nd person that sheshe2 Oct 2014 #21

Link and I was there handing out flowers... Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #23

Yet sheshe2 Oct 2014 #29

So what. The title of you OP is a lie. It denies those who came first. And it denies the pioneers of Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #30

You want to have squatters rights? sheshe2 Oct 2014 #39

I want the truth. You seem unwilling to tell it. You take something factually beautiful and diminish Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #49

Your posts to me are very rude and ugly. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #95

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #96

Hold all the crap you posted me (ahem) sheshe2 Oct 2014 #99

Yup, those gay marriages were declared void! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #33

Does that mean they didn't happen? Will you deny that marriage equality was INTRODUCED in Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #35

Since you want to jump on the OP for no apparent reason William769 Oct 2014 #41

Oh, I know that. And she was a peach! Totally off the grid. I wish I had an opportunity to Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #52

Ya think! sheshe2 Oct 2014 #40

This right here is why I stopped posting. William769 Oct 2014 #45

aaaah William.... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #51

I set them "straight". William769 Oct 2014 #53

I ain't strait. And I've been a member of queer politics for 3 decades. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #55

Then act like it. nt William769 Oct 2014 #65

I am acting like it. San Francisco was the first in the nation to declare marriage Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #73

So you are denying what happened in Boulder in 1975. Alrighty then. William769 Oct 2014 #74

Apparently, you have no problem with the OP denying it. In fact, you seem to encourage her to deny. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #78

The article is about a State legalizing Gay marriage. William769 Oct 2014 #82

Really? Massachusetts INTRODUCES US to marriage equality. INTRODUCED US? Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #86

Apparently, you also sent the OP "straight." Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #58

Not at all, from a leagel point of view she is correct. William769 Oct 2014 #60

It was legal in San Francisco when Newsom declared it so. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #61

It was legal in Boulder too when it was issued. So whats your point? William769 Oct 2014 #62

So why aren't you ripping the OP a new one? Why are you not taking her to task for Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #69

So you agree with the OP that Massachusetts introduced the country to marriage equality. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #64

Legally yes. William769 Oct 2014 #66

Nope. Legally, San Francisco did. What kind of person denies this.? Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #71

The same person that denies Boulder did it in 1975. William769 Oct 2014 #72

Boulder did not. A wonderful women did. Boulder and the state of Colorado denied her initiative. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #77

That lady started the ball rolling. William769 Oct 2014 #79

So you agree. Massachusetts did NOT introduce us to marriage equality. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #83

They did legally. I know it doesn't fit with what you are trying to sell. But there it is. William769 Oct 2014 #85

What am I trying to sell? Both San Francisco and New Paltz preceded Massachusetts, legally. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #90

Then why were all those licenses voided by the Supreme Court if they were legal? William769 Oct 2014 #92

Really, William? They were legal when they were issued. They were legal when hundreds of Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #97

Shiiiitttttt, gurl, I knew that! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #50

That's right. Gavin Newsom did it first. Then, it was the guy in New Paltz, NY. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #24

Truly. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #25

You are so wrong. William769 Oct 2014 #42

Maaannn! So the OP's article was wrong by 29 years and 2 months. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #47

Not at all. William769 Oct 2014 #48

Well, since we are fighting over semantics. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #67

Any reasonable sane person in touch with reality undtstands the article. William769 Oct 2014 #68

Meh... That's your prerogative to be demonstrably wrong. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #75

You have yet to show where it's wrong. nt William769 Oct 2014 #76

Yeah, I did in two different ways. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #91

Stupid thing to argue about. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #32

No it isn't. I fucking hate revisionist history. It is a fucking fact that San Francisco INTRODUCED Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #36

No they didn't. Want to wipe the egg off your face now? William769 Oct 2014 #43

Nope. As GOVERNMENT policy, San Francisco was the first. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #56

Just admit you were wrong and move on. William769 Oct 2014 #59

If I am wrong, then so is the OP. Take her to task. The balls in your court. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #80

How is the OP wrong? William769 Oct 2014 #84

"Introduced gay marriage". It's like Columbus discover America. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #87

So are you saying they did not legally introduce Gay marriage 10 years ago? William769 Oct 2014 #89

I am saying that Massachusetts did not introduce marriage equality. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #93

I just got the low down on you. William769 Oct 2014 #94

Mind blowing that some politicians took almost a decade to agree MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #38

Thanks for link! burrowowl Oct 2014 #44

You are so welcome! sheshe2 Oct 2014 #46

Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem William769 Oct 2014 #54

I took Latin for several years... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #70

It's amazing how much has changed in twenty years. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #57

WhiteAndNerdy sheshe2 Oct 2014 #63

Excellent! Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #88

Thank you my dear sweet BtA~ sheshe2 Oct 2014 #98

I know you have our backs. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #100

... sheshe2 Oct 2014 #112

I am glad we did not listen when so many here on DU told us to STFU, Jamastiene Oct 2014 #102

I never listen to people who say that. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #104

If the rest of us listened to people like that, Jamastiene Oct 2014 #105

LET'S POST THIS FOUR TIMES In ALL CAPS mrsadm Oct 2014 #106

What's your Problem? Cha Oct 2014 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #108

After the fiasco in this thread last night over a much ado about nothing, I thought this appropriate William769 Oct 2014 #109

Actually it was pipi_k Oct 2014 #110

Thanks William! sheshe2 Oct 2014 #111