Our founding fathers were not Christians.

[HiPointDem]

46. what's the usual meaning of the word? in my world, "christian" refers to anyone from the fundie

to the casual & mostly disinterested churchgoer to the person who just considers christ as a "teacher" above other teachers and doesn't believe most of what's in the bible or anything of organized religion.

and i think in that sense, most if not all of the founding fathers were some variety of christian. they believed in *something* and their conceptualizations of that *something* were informed by their upbringing in a christian world view. as are most americans,' however distant from "church" they may be.

to me, "they weren't christians, they were deists" is kind of oxymoronic, & i think stupid as an argument with which to combat the fundies, many of whom seem to desire a return to an official church.

separation of church and state is being breached, and people are splitting hairs and counting angels on pins.

and i'll add that imo the reason why is that some are so invested in their own atheism or hatred of religion that they can't see the forest for the trees.