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MattSh

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19. Why might the German government be lying this time?

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 08:53 AM

Oct 2014

Oh yeah, here's the quote I was looking for...

As I understand it the idea of a breakfast meeting between Putin and European leaders came from Merkel. With the German and European economies tanking in part because of the very sanctions policy she has imposed, Merkel needs this crisis to end. At the same time she remains utterly unwilling to take on the US and its European allies or the Atlanticists within Germany. She therefore looks to Putin to extricate her from the mess she has got herself into. However because she is not prepared to face up to the US and its allies or the Atlanticists she wants Putin to get her out of trouble by capitulating to all their demands. She tries to do this by applying “pressure” on Putin (that was what today’s breakfast meeting was all about) and then looks sullenly angry and baffled when it doesn’t work.

So this happened October 18, and the report from the German foreign intelligence service came out when? Oh yeah. October 19th. Putin didn't help Merkel out of the jam she's gotten Germany and the whole EU into, so now she's ratcheting up the pressure again, hoping that the 3rd time, no the 5th time, no the 20th time will be a charm.

Give it up Merkel, it ain't going to work.

I know. I'm playing chess on a different dimension that most. Sorry about that.

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