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28. LOL...YOU try reading history!

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:08 PM

Oct 2014

Don't be stupid, I'm not saying America is "all that great" now, I'm responding to

a post that says "America was NEVER 'that great', and my question is, compared

to where?.

"Forbes"? Sorry, bro, I'm a boomer, the child of a labor organizer/factory worker.
as is my spouse.

Because of the New Deal policies that I mentioned (did you even bother to read my post?)..Both of us were able to go to public colleges and, with hard work, reach a very comfortable middle class life by the time were in our late forties, early fifties.

My point is, the America we grew up in, the one our parents left us, and the one we FOUGHT for via civil rights, women's rights, gay rights and anti-war protests, was never 'perfect', nothing is, but it was SO much better than what it is now -- Forbes reading not
required.

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Baby boomers Ruined America: Why Blaming Millennials is Misguided � and Annoying [View all] UglyGreed Oct 2014 OP

Blaming any entire generation is misguided and annoying Newsjock Oct 2014 #1

so basically the whole generation is to blame hfojvt Oct 2014 #2

Many of us Baby Boomers did in fact do great damage to this country. SharonAnn Oct 2014 #167

boomers destroyed everything the silent generation built in 30 years robthesocialist Oct 2014 #207

Can I still hate hipsters? TlalocW Oct 2014 #3

Yes. TeamPooka Oct 2014 #51

by all means. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #178

The biggest mistake living americans make is believing america was ever really that great. CBGLuthier Oct 2014 #4

I know, right? bravenak Oct 2014 #5

You nailed it!! n/t KarenS Oct 2014 #8

great point Mr Dixon Oct 2014 #11

The sad thing is.... daleanime Oct 2014 #15

As compared to where? whathehell Oct 2014 #16

Try reading something other than Forbes. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #23

LOL...YOU try reading history! whathehell Oct 2014 #28

How about ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #126

+1 exactly bravenak Oct 2014 #134

I wish he/she had stayed around ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #136

Ain't that where THEY always go?? LOL!! bravenak Oct 2014 #138

How about.. whathehell Oct 2014 #142

So by your standard ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #147

A question: whathehell Oct 2014 #150

Yes, the lives of some woen have improved ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #152

Yes, and the lives of some African-Americans have improved.. whathehell Oct 2014 #154

When have I ever lectured any woman on any topic? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #158

Lecturing white people, or any racial group, for that matter, whathehell Oct 2014 #159

Good point ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #161

Thank you.. whathehell Oct 2014 #162

I was thinking the same thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #163

Nice! whathehell Oct 2014 #168

Really Silly Reply ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #114

Thomas Jefferson wrote all me are created equal while owning and raping slaves CBGLuthier Oct 2014 #37

Yeah, he wrote out women of all colors too..In fact, whathehell Oct 2014 #50

Thomas Jefferson gladium et scutum Oct 2014 #72

Link? whathehell Oct 2014 #87

He promised to free their children if she came back with him. bravenak Oct 2014 #73

Link? whathehell Oct 2014 #86

Where you been? Everyone know this in my area. bravenak Oct 2014 #101

The correct form of the question is "Where have you been"?, whathehell Oct 2014 #111

It has never been that great for people that look like me... bravenak Oct 2014 #119

Sorry, honey but it's been "pretty great" for a number of people who "look like you" whathehell Oct 2014 #122

For some, dear, not most of us. bravenak Oct 2014 #123

For only "some" of us as well, dear, not most, whathehell Oct 2014 #124

Sounds like you are the one in full poor me mode. bravenak Oct 2014 #127

LOL!...Good try, honey, but no cigar. whathehell Oct 2014 #129

Oh, Woe is meeee!! bravenak Oct 2014 #132

+1 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #133

And that "pretty great" is despite looking like her (and me, for that matter) ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #131

Apparently, not only do your lack a knowledge of history ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #130

Apparently, you don't know shit about my knowledge of history.. whathehell Oct 2014 #189

We had come so far towards agreement/understanding ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #190

You tell me.. whathehell Oct 2014 #191

Check the date and time of the "new nasty post", or not. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #196

Sorry about that...I suppose you could have deleted the post after whathehell Oct 2014 #199

Please know ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #202

Okay, thanks. whathehell Oct 2014 #203

Hey there. Jury results on your post, btw: AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #193

Thank you for displaying exactly what is wrong with the jury system ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #195

I know EXACTLY who wrote that. bravenak Oct 2014 #205

What's most interesting is the number of jurors that state that person is doing themselves Number23 Oct 2014 #209

Sweet Holy Hot Jesus Number23 Oct 2014 #182

Sorry I didn't meet with your approval.. whathehell Oct 2014 #188

You post a patronizing post, dripping with racist entitlement to a poster that you know is black Number23 Oct 2014 #192

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your assessment. whathehell Oct 2014 #200

Yes, you have the nerve tell a black woman that she needs to speak better Number23 Oct 2014 #208

As 1Strong Blackman noted, that woman was mocking me, and I knew it whathehell Oct 2014 #210

Judging by the number of people in this thread that have your number Number23 Oct 2014 #211

The number of the jurors who "have my number" voted AGAINST the alert & let my post stand, whathehell Oct 2014 #212

One juror voted not to hide because s/he wanted everyone to be able to see your character Number23 Oct 2014 #213

I'm glad you saw that. bravenak Oct 2014 #206

Wow ... Are you for real? 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #128

Wow..I AM, and I DO know about the fifty year fight of the Hemmings to be whathehell Oct 2014 #140

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #148

Even putting race aside Generic Other Oct 2014 #166

4 redeeming interludes to your narrative of (mostly valid) despair: KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #25

And that's pretty much the truth in most places across malaise Oct 2014 #32

pretty much sums it up. KG Oct 2014 #34

Talk about nailing it! brush Oct 2014 #79

Great reply UglyGreed Oct 2014 #103

The era they're pining for was propped up by the devastation of Europe and Asia. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #104

As the quote I found online, months ago notes ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #125

How do you feel about immigration? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #160

Amen. Number23 Oct 2014 #181

Oh please.. seriously..the generation wars again Peacetrain Oct 2014 #6

It's all about keeping the pot stirred up Andy823 Oct 2014 #13

But what have we done for them lately? Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #33

Thank you. nt raccoon Oct 2014 #40

Baby boomers, by virtue of their very numbers, faced mucho competition for jobs Demit Oct 2014 #7

The second half of the boomers in particular faced crazy competition. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #93

ditto that marions ghost Oct 2014 #107

I'm a "baby boomer". NOLALady Oct 2014 #9

"White suburban baby boomers came of age in an era of unprecedented prosperity." bobclark86 Oct 2014 #55

Let me relieve you of some of your misconceptions.. whathehell Oct 2014 #156

Thats... nice? bobclark86 Oct 2014 #165

I'm sorry, I took your comment out of context. whathehell Oct 2014 #175

An era of unprecedented prosperity that was fizzling by 1974 starroute Oct 2014 #69

You're absolutely right. amandabeech Oct 2014 #75

Reagan undermined everything marions ghost Oct 2014 #108

Young wolves, show us your teeth. John Steinbeck Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #10

I'm GenX as well, and I'm tired of Millennials and Boomers USING THE PHONE WHEN DRIVING snooper2 Oct 2014 #12

Stop looking at the other drivers to guess their ages and watch where you're driving! Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2014 #64

Yeah. Driving is NOT for texting or chatting! laundry_queen Oct 2014 #183

You are a generation off.. SoCalDem Oct 2014 #14

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree...The parents of the Boomers were whathehell Oct 2014 #21

It all depends on which boomers and which parents Maeve Oct 2014 #31

One Size never fits all.. whathehell Oct 2014 #38

Not in the least! Not sure where you got that from the simple facts I posted... Maeve Oct 2014 #41

None of my grandparents could vote for FDR tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #70

Again, one size never fits all, whathehell Oct 2014 #88

I'm a Boomer. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #81

Yeah, one of the younger ones... whathehell Oct 2014 #95

Not younger--right in the middle of the pack. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #143

Incidentally, a "generation" is usually defined as the amount of time truebluegreen Oct 2014 #146

No shit, sherlock.. whathehell Oct 2014 #151

Good post! ..nt TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #24

What you say is particularly true for late Boomers Maeve Oct 2014 #44

+1 Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #100

Thank you. I've always said it was the generation born during the late 20s and 30s Warpy Oct 2014 #78

+100000 J_J_ Oct 2014 #135

The boomers ate America. RadiationTherapy Oct 2014 #17

I get so sick of stupid. No generation "ruined" the U.S. cali Oct 2014 #18

At least Boomers aren't illiterate Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #22

not true, facts suck LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #27

mere literacy isn't a measure of smarts. alp227 Oct 2014 #45

Because we no longer have to wait for the newsletter to arrive in the mail. jeff47 Oct 2014 #49

Critical thinking can't be measured in 140 characters. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #171

Ah, but Millenials blaming Boomers is OK Now I get it. LiberalElite Oct 2014 #19

I'm millennial and I hate millennial culture. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #20

Give me a break!!! bravenak Oct 2014 #26

You wear leotards as pants? Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #177

Yes. I'm pretty shapely. bravenak Oct 2014 #179

Where were you in the 80's? laundry_queen Oct 2014 #184

... Inkfreak Oct 2014 #30

Those are rather poor comparisons jeff47 Oct 2014 #53

Then what can we blame for Facebook and Bieber? Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #174

Maybe it's your school laundry_queen Oct 2014 #185

Wow. That's the biggest load of crap I've ever read here. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #56

Which part? Facebook? The music? Slacktivism? Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #173

This divide and conquer bullshit, as expressed in the article, sucks TransitJohn Oct 2014 #29

You beat me to it. Thanks for that post. nt raccoon Oct 2014 #43

Truth marions ghost Oct 2014 #109

That's precisely it RFKHumphreyObama Oct 2014 #186

I was born in May of 1946. My folks lived through upaloopa Oct 2014 #35

I'm a borderline millennial tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #36

The generational lines and political lines don't quite match. jeff47 Oct 2014 #48

I could be either gen x or millennial depending on who you ask tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #68

They pander to "seniors" because that has been the coalition in power jeff47 Oct 2014 #113

Most of the GOP frontrunners are Gen X tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #117

You'll note I kept using "Older" in front of GenX when describing the conservative coalition jeff47 Oct 2014 #118

There's a group in my state tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #121

I hate to point this out, but Elizabeth Warren voted for Reagan every time, then for Bush Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #77

But she woke up and left the party tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #80

I'm never quite sure just which group I'm supposed to be hatin' on... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #39

That's the beuaty of being GenX LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #60

'Cause Lord knows we didn't do anything AwakeAtLast Oct 2014 #106

Hey I'm from that generation. We didn't elect and reelect Ronald Reagan. Initech Oct 2014 #42

Not this shit again! Iggo Oct 2014 #46

Some people just like stirring up the chamberpot Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #96

This post is rude, disruptive and otherwise over the top. "Divide and conquer." raccoon Oct 2014 #47

My deepest apologies . . . Brigid Oct 2014 #52

I know, right? Iggo Oct 2014 #54

You Should Apologize, Brigid ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #116

Honey, I've marched my ass off, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #57

It was St. Ronnie and his enablers who fucked things up. None of them Cleita Oct 2014 #58

The yuppies among the boomers loyalsister Oct 2014 #84

This generational pseudoscience stuff is bullshit. winter is coming Oct 2014 #59

Please stop with the generational bashing thing. Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2014 #61

Ageism sucks. It truly does. MineralMan Oct 2014 #62

Now that the dust has settled.... UglyGreed Oct 2014 #216

Here we go again. Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #63

I actually think there's a lot of truth to this War Horse Oct 2014 #65

Look the War Party ruined us, not any generation. Folks who want all our treasure for Eternal War librechik Oct 2014 #66

Nobody ever points their fingers at the generation of 1828 and blames them. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #67

I think we made a mistake... CanSocDem Oct 2014 #71

It's all Doctor Spock's fault! Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #102

sounds like some very creative speculation to me. Conspiracy Theories Group meets down Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2014 #74

All generation bashing is ugly Warpy Oct 2014 #76

Very true Warpy CountAllVotes Oct 2014 #82

I agree. jen63 Oct 2014 #89

Milennials are giving me a lot of hope Warpy Oct 2014 #91

Me too. jen63 Oct 2014 #92

In the "good old days"... meaculpa2011 Oct 2014 #83

The Koch brothers aren't baby boomers. pnwmom Oct 2014 #85

This boomer's education was subsidized by ~3 years of service during VN. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #90

And they went to 19%! Warpy Oct 2014 #94

The 1st OPEC embargo happened while I was in service... HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #98

It took a while for the whole economy to go into double digit inflation Warpy Oct 2014 #99

As a partially disabled Vietnam vet the VA paid for my college under Vocational Rehabilitation pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #187

Cool MFrohike Oct 2014 #97

I don't see the millenial blame game.. sendero Oct 2014 #105

Some of us never had any power to influence anything Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2014 #110

I am a baby boomer, but not prosperous in the slightest LiberalEsto Oct 2014 #112

Boomers were raised by TV, and believed everything TV told them. Hence Ronald Reagan. True Blue Door Oct 2014 #115

The GOPers have us right where they want us: Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #120

I need a chart to tell me what generation I belong to tularetom Oct 2014 #137

I'm different according to different charts tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #170

Pew research quiz: How Milennial Are You? Zorra Oct 2014 #139

I like that test. bravenak Oct 2014 #141

Got a 46. Makes be midway between an X-er and Millenial Populist_Prole Oct 2014 #144

My mom was born in 61 and she feels the same way. bravenak Oct 2014 #145

My mom was born the day JFK died Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #176

You guys sound fun. bravenak Oct 2014 #180

I'm an older boomer (62). Hatchling Oct 2014 #149

LOL, I'm 63 B Calm Oct 2014 #153

"The real divide is between the 1% and the 99%". +1000000000 nt Zorra Oct 2014 #164

scored 89 tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #169

Why Generation Wars are Misguided---and Annoying. 10% v. 90%. Anything else is divide and merrily Oct 2014 #155

Boomers were just the people alive then. Just as we are alive now. raouldukelives Oct 2014 #157

Another Forrest Gump post whistler162 Oct 2014 #172

Fuck that! graywarrior Oct 2014 #194

Go on with your bad self, Gray whathehell Oct 2014 #214

Damn right, I am! graywarrior Oct 2014 #215

Yeah, well, TS, Eliot. I'm worried about Medicare and Social Security, not to mention my state WinkyDink Oct 2014 #197

This argument is lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #198

Gen Xers like myself are going to sit this one out and remain invisible it would seem. LonePirate Oct 2014 #201

Libertarian Billionaires and War Hawks ruined this country. And they blame it on anyone else. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #204