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Straw Man

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65. More babble.

Mon Oct 20, 2014, 05:33 PM

Oct 2014

Would you care to answer my question, or are you only here to obfuscate?

The point is the credibility of the OP. For the record, I'm against asking voters for ID, but I resent the fact that erstwhile culture warriors want to drag specious firearms comparisons into it.

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....in the great state of Texas, it�s easier to buy an automatic weapon than register to vote [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

I do not believe this statement to be true. Jenoch Oct 2014 #1

So, one has to show their. Federal permit before purchasing an automatic weapon at a gun show? world wide wally Oct 2014 #12

Try going to a gun show and buying an automatic weapon. GGJohn Oct 2014 #13

Then stand corrected. I should have said SEMI AUTOMATIC weapon world wide wally Oct 2014 #15

No problem, and you're right, GGJohn Oct 2014 #18

That's not how it works. Jenoch Oct 2014 #19

Absolutely false. former9thward Oct 2014 #2

Here comes the nit-picking over calling a semi-auto weapon automatic or an assault rifle.. n/t brewens Oct 2014 #3

Not nit picking. GGJohn Oct 2014 #5

When you refer to a pistol as a revolver or an automatic Bandit Oct 2014 #25

What kind of pistol are you Jenoch Oct 2014 #26

You mean this is fake? sarisataka Oct 2014 #33

In Texas Jenoch Oct 2014 #36

When someone says automatic weapon, GGJohn Oct 2014 #30

I thought he intended to mean semi-automatic, a common mistake. To me I think a semi-auto weapon in brewens Oct 2014 #104

There are very different procedures/requirements on buying a tammywammy Oct 2014 #7

Mixing the two up is like calling an 18 wheeler a sedan. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #27

Absolutely false. GGJohn Oct 2014 #4

Only those who are afraid of the ballot box, try to keep voters from filling it. liberal N proud Oct 2014 #6

False Matrosov Oct 2014 #8

It's extremely hard and very expensive to legally buy an automatic weapon. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #9

...and at noon the sun blinks: "Eat at Joe's" Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #10

Will we be chastised if we criticize Texas for their "visionary" policies? world wide wally Oct 2014 #11

Just, factually no Recursion Oct 2014 #14

Its satire -- but anti-gunnsters think its true.  aikoaiko Oct 2014 #16

Will Durst once made a guy lose $468,000. Jenoch Oct 2014 #21

Player: You sure? Durst: Yeah. Player: You know for a fact? Durst: yeah aikoaiko Oct 2014 #22

Are you calling Jenoch Oct 2014 #23

Durst. I was quoting the video where he gave bad advise. I'll fix the post to be more clear. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #24

Seriously? sarisataka Oct 2014 #17

Actually, that's not true at all. MineralMan Oct 2014 #20

A gun permit requires a criminal background check and finger prints hack89 Oct 2014 #28

The real reason a gun permit is an acceptable ID... NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #29

In Texas a license/permit is not needed to purchase or own a firearm. oneshooter Oct 2014 #34

The concealed carry permit was what I was referring to. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #68

Not a bit of truth to that, whatsoever. linuxman Oct 2014 #31

200 bucks and a 8 month wait....I doubt registering is that much or long. ileus Oct 2014 #32

Obviously, OP meant "semi-auto." While the gun nomenclature purists Hoyt Oct 2014 #35

If OP meant semi auto, then why hasn't the OP edited it to say that? GGJohn Oct 2014 #37

Like I said, gunners will whine and complain. Hoyt Oct 2014 #40

Don't want to answer the question? GGJohn Oct 2014 #43

Simple question that you can't answer, so you resort to attacking the poster joeglow3 Oct 2014 #69

Yes it does Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #99

Since the OP sarisataka Oct 2014 #38

It's easier to buy several AR15s and thousands of rounds of ammo than get registered to vote. Hoyt Oct 2014 #41

Actually, that's not true at all. GGJohn Oct 2014 #46

Actually it is. You can buy them legally in a private sale with nothing but a fistful of cash. Hoyt Oct 2014 #50

And registering to vote only requires filling out a card, mailing it in, GGJohn Oct 2014 #52

Standing in line while registering, getting a photo ID if you don't have one, standing in line again Hoyt Oct 2014 #56

You can sling all the hyperbole you want, GGJohn Oct 2014 #58

Nope it is true, it's easier to buy an "assault/tactical" weapon and ammo in Texas than to vote. Hoyt Oct 2014 #60

Maybe you should read the article. GGJohn Oct 2014 #62

Look, even Manufacturer Colt calls their 1911 an "AUTOMATIC Pistol." Wise up. Hoyt Oct 2014 #67

Sigh. GGJohn Oct 2014 #72

This ain't one. Automatic is apt description and all you care about is criticizing OP's point about Hoyt Oct 2014 #73

No, automatic is not an apt description, and all I care about is fact, GGJohn Oct 2014 #79

40% of gunz are sold legally by handing cash to a gun owner. No ID required. Hoyt Oct 2014 #80

This isn't about that, is it. GGJohn Oct 2014 #84

Do you have a recent link to back up that 40% number. Jenoch Oct 2014 #87

I gave one previously, you need to learn how to search/research things. Hoyt Oct 2014 #89

I already found it. See my response to your other post containing that link. Jenoch Oct 2014 #90

That link you provided? Did you even read it? GGJohn Oct 2014 #91

Obviously, you are not familiar with statistics either. Hoyt Oct 2014 #93

Obviously, you are not familiar with more recent stats either. GGJohn Oct 2014 #94

your link does not even think it is accurate Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #100

And it's still much more easier to vote than it is to buy an automatic weapon. GGJohn Oct 2014 #64

Where I live Jenoch Oct 2014 #86

That's they way it should be. But, you don't even need that for private transfer. Hoyt Oct 2014 #92

You do like to fudge the truth don't you. GGJohn Oct 2014 #95

Not Texas, or most others. Hoyt Oct 2014 #97

17 states + DC require background checks for all transfers. GGJohn Oct 2014 #98

Huh? Jenoch Oct 2014 #96

Registering to vote required filling out a card and mailing it in. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #48

You forget standing in line, getting photo ID, standing in line to vote, etc. Hoyt Oct 2014 #57

Facts are more important to me Hoyt. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #61

The OP's point is accurate, it is too difficult for some to vote. Hoyt Oct 2014 #74

But NOT more difficult. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #77

OK, at least you are now acknowledging the issue. Cracks me up when the liquor store clerk asks for Hoyt Oct 2014 #81

I've always acknowledged the issue. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #85

Does it make me happy? sarisataka Oct 2014 #101

Then why didn't he say "revolver"? Straw Man Oct 2014 #42

Your love of gunz is obscuring the point we should be focusing on. Hoyt Oct 2014 #44

Actually, you're wrong again. GGJohn Oct 2014 #47

Ever heard of, or participated in, a private purchase? Here's my money, give me that baby before Hoyt Oct 2014 #51

The only defending going on here is you defending the OP's false GGJohn Oct 2014 #53

And, BTW, it's 30 fold harder to buy an automatic weapon than it is to register to vote. GGJohn Oct 2014 #55

Once again, there is a relatively small contingent who knows or cares about the difference between Hoyt Oct 2014 #59

The legal and financial difference is huge. Straw Man Oct 2014 #66

So why do manufacturers like Colt refer to pistols like the 1911 as an AUTOMATIC? Hoyt Oct 2014 #70

When the 1911 was first introduced, it got the name "automatic" because it automatically reloaded GGJohn Oct 2014 #76

Because at the time (1911) that was how it was differentiated from a revolver. Straw Man Oct 2014 #83

I'm kind of guessing "private elections" don't require picture I.D. beevul Oct 2014 #105

More babble. Straw Man Oct 2014 #65

Remarkable. The author of the article uses one paragraph of hyperbole out of ten to make a point... bluesbassman Oct 2014 #39

F$@kin A. Hoyt Oct 2014 #45

Most people focus on a thread title and content. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #49

Unfortunately the US electorate ends up with many under informed voters... bluesbassman Oct 2014 #54

In this case, the title was meant to draw attention, and it has. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #75

6.6 million guns are sold each year WITHOUT a background check or photo-ID, just cash. Hoyt Oct 2014 #78

They are also not government transactions, and not comparable. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #82

The link you posted says the 40% figure is B.S. Jenoch Oct 2014 #88

The question is why couldn't the 9 legitimate paragraphs stand without one paragraph of bullshit? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #71

Stand your ground against Ebola! JoePhilly Oct 2014 #63

The OP is standing their ground against fact checking. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #102

Perhaps they are factose intolerant. oneshooter Oct 2014 #103