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Major Nikon

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57. The first amendment won't protect his job

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 04:17 AM

Oct 2014

Government employees certainly have first amendment rights like everyone else, but government employers also have employer rights which dictate what employees can and can't say. So the government can't stop the cop from saying whatever he wants, but they can stop him from being a cop while doing so and he can enjoy his first amendment rights on the street corner all he wants while unemployed.

I would venture to guess he has violated a number of employment policies including such things as using private information obtained from his job for personal uses and using his official position for unauthorized use (abuse of power).

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St. Louis Police Officer calls the job of Ferguson Activist to get her fired. She gets his number & [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

Practiced by authoritarians everywhere since J Edgar Hoover. Octafish Oct 2014 #1

any chance she can sue him in civil court? belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #2

yes, she can sue azureblue Oct 2014 #10

One would have to show real damages, and here the boss gave her the phone number. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #37

Wrong answer tabasco Oct 2014 #41

Well, there is that <G>. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #42

Kick. riqster Oct 2014 #3

Cut the police budget at least in half. JEB Oct 2014 #4

Actually I would recommend doubling it. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #17

Yes. Clean house of the scum and reward ($$) the real police. SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2014 #20

No. R.Quinn Oct 2014 #23

Quinn its not just wages they clearly need better training and training costs money. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #27

We will have to agree to disagree. R.Quinn Oct 2014 #29

Ya but that issue you raised of their attitude is part of what better training would cstanleytech Oct 2014 #30

Funny how Democrats turn into tea partiers when it comes to one group of state or city employees. delta17 Oct 2014 #46

Actually Democrats do not turn into tea partiers when it comes to state or city employees. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #62

Oh please. R.Quinn Oct 2014 #66

However lack of money attracts bribes in droves. Pay your civil servants a living wage. Hekate Oct 2014 #35

Don't they make more than teachers already? And with less schooling. FTP panader0 Oct 2014 #40

That ^^^ onecaliberal Oct 2014 #45

You make a persuasive argument quakerboy Oct 2014 #55

The cops are getting plenty of money. JEB Oct 2014 #25

I will agree cstanleytech Oct 2014 #26

The only correct answer, so, of course, it'll never be employed. nt valerief Oct 2014 #44

Unfortunately, training doesn't cure racism. lob1 Oct 2014 #33

Nope but make the course and or school long enough cstanleytech Oct 2014 #34

You are correct. Stop funding the insanity. +1 whereisjustice Oct 2014 #52

Some right wing moron called one of my clients once MineralMan Oct 2014 #5

good for her heaven05 Oct 2014 #6

k&r valerief Oct 2014 #7

"Ownership Model" PeoViejo Oct 2014 #8

Good for her! Exposure of intimidation is critical. nt mountain grammy Oct 2014 #9

What does "ownership model" mean in this context? drm604 Oct 2014 #11

It's seems to be sort of a neighborhood watch with less "watch" csziggy Oct 2014 #53

Does the police department not have any policies against intimidation? etherealtruth Oct 2014 #12

You would think so! Everyone except the St Louis PD that is. Cha Oct 2014 #71

The constabulary forces in this country have declared war upon the citizenry (or at KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #13

Yes they have. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2014 #22

Wow, great post! greatlaurel Oct 2014 #14

St. Louis reputation goes deeper in the mud of outrageous Police behavior! gordianot Oct 2014 #15

They're scared alfredo Oct 2014 #16

Wow. Beyond scary. I hope she is lawyered up. McCamy Taylor Oct 2014 #18

Update posted on youtube: avebury Oct 2014 #19

Where does the link go? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #39

real good question druidity33 Oct 2014 #48

Here is a story on the officer now being investigated: Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #51

The first amendment won't protect his job Major Nikon Oct 2014 #57

It does get a little tricky-er when the employer is also the government. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #58

There may be a constitutional right to talk politics,... Major Nikon Oct 2014 #59

That opinion is woefully outdated: Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #60

Not so much in this case Major Nikon Oct 2014 #61

How so? tooeyeten Oct 2014 #64

Go back and read this entire sub-thread. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2014 #67

Ok tooeyeten Oct 2014 #73

You're right tooeyeten Oct 2014 #65

Is it fascism yet? malaise Oct 2014 #21

This is clearcut violation of First Amendment rights by a government figure. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #24

Keith desperately needs to be a bagboy at the Piggly Wiggly. byronius Oct 2014 #28

except, I would not want him near my groceries--not sure I could wash off the contamination. niyad Oct 2014 #49

Gotta hear this...can't now nt duhneece Oct 2014 #31

"So.... were you doing it for my benefit?" LMAO n/t secondwind Oct 2014 #32

Seems to me.. Keith chose the wrong citizen to intimidate with his bully tactics and is only Cha Oct 2014 #72

Unbelievable! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #36

I have had this happen to me.... by an infamous FB bully named Brian Kolfage Jr. millijac Oct 2014 #38

WTF! nt City Lights Oct 2014 #43

Kpete, you should be *ashamed* of yourself MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #47

Thankyou MannyGoldstein kpete Oct 2014 #68

k and r for continued visibility. these roaches need sunlight!! niyad Oct 2014 #50

, blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #54

WOW! She is Amazing! Good on her! At first I thought they were saying she was "insightful".. Cha Oct 2014 #56

mahalo kpete Oct 2014 #70

This is a job for the ACLU. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #63

So what is up with the PDs in that area? Are they all commited to being jackbooted thugs? Rex Oct 2014 #69