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TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
33. how would they know that?
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:48 AM
Oct 2014

You can't know just by looking at someone that they're having a heart attack. Most people don't even know it themselves. My mom had a heart attack and had no idea. She thought she had a pinched nerve. And she was a nurse. Years earlier my dad thought he was having a heart attack and was about to die and insanely drove himself to the ER. Turned out he had severe indigestion.

We don't even know at what time this heart attack occurred or if tasering was responsible. He suffered from panic attacks - I get them, too - that can cause the heart to pound like crazy and even miss beats. Might that have contributed to it? Without actual medical evidence we don't know what caused his heart attack. For all we know he was a heart attack waiting to happen anyway. People get tasered multiple times without having a heart attack. One of the reasons I don't particularly like the use of tasers at all is because police can't know if someone has underlying health issues where being tasered may be high risk for them. And some people can be tasered repeatedly and it does nothing. The odds are still a whole lot better though than a billy club.

None of this would have happened at all had he not resisted arrest. Police don't go around arresting people by throwing them on the ground, jumping on them and tasering them repeatedly for no reason. They just want to get the job done as easily as possible and be on their way. When they say you're under arrest you put your hands behind your back, shut your mouth, allow yourself to be cuffed and walked to and get in the police car. Doesn't matter if it turns out to be something you shouldn't have been arrested for. That's for court. The police aren't going to care about your complaints that you shouldn't be arrested because XYZ. They get the warrant and go do the arrest. Its for courts to decide whether or not there was good reason to arrest you, and the police have no power to play judge at the scene nor do they want to be bothered with that. Yet people do it all the time as if they're actually going to say, "Oh, sorry, this arrest warrant must be wrong then now that you say you didn't do anything." They're there to make the arrest, not to hear all about how you shouldn't be arrested.

They went to arrest the guy because of a complaint from his ex who he was legally supposed to staying away from. I'd far rather police take domestic issues more seriously when those kinds of complaints are made. Sorry, but I'm of the belief that if someone has a restraining order against you there's a damn good reason for it.

I'm certainly not going to be so stupid as to hear about bits from a lawsuit and automatically believe it. I spent way too many years having to read them cover to cover including exhibits and already knowing the complaints are largely full of crap and having to write responses. Had to write too many of them, too, with attorneys adding in all kinds of nonsense just to make it look better or in case they came up with something off the top of their heads that couldn't be proven one way or another but sounded good.

And I'm definitely not going to pay any attention to a blog with an agenda as a "news" source and when they can't even get the name of they guy they're writing about right.

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look at two paragraphs from the story NJCher Oct 2014 #1
Yes, something must be done at the city and county level BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #7
Well, the cops do, why not the chiefs covering their asses? TransitJohn Oct 2014 #39
wow, that was an interesting link NJCher Oct 2014 #41
Lemme guess. He couldn't get into a KKK meeting without a hood on. valerief Oct 2014 #2
I hope the lying ex-girlfriend is madville Oct 2014 #3
Yes. She needs to go to jail. mainer Oct 2014 #8
yep Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #20
his name is William Cox TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #4
Thank you, that's a better article about it. n/t Arger68 Oct 2014 #5
The OP isn't really a news article, just a blog. Bonx Oct 2014 #43
Wow that's one hell of a lawsuit. Rex Oct 2014 #16
It should say ... aggiesal Oct 2014 #27
how would they know that? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #33
"None of this would have happened at all had he not resisted arrest." TransitJohn Oct 2014 #40
The eternal bullshit explanaion/justification. hifiguy Oct 2014 #42
We are supposed to be a nation of laws. truedelphi Oct 2014 #44
Crazy damnedifIknow Oct 2014 #6
This man violated a restraining order by his ex-girlfriend gerogie2 Oct 2014 #9
Based on false information from his ex-girlfriend, who had told police that Cox had violated... noiretextatique Oct 2014 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author gerogie2 Oct 2014 #17
There is nothing in the story that indicates avebury Oct 2014 #13
The bottom line is... gerogie2 Oct 2014 #19
And the people have the right to expect the police avebury Oct 2014 #34
No - read the entire article csziggy Oct 2014 #14
So the officers had a bad arrest warrant? ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #22
Apparently they did no investigation at all csziggy Oct 2014 #26
Exactly, just what I am wondering. nt avebury Oct 2014 #35
the article couldn't even get his name right TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #25
boy this gets frustrating strawberries Oct 2014 #15
your point being? rufus dog Oct 2014 #23
Cops will beat you to death Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #24
I've been arrested twice... gerogie2 Oct 2014 #30
(Looks around.) graegoyle Oct 2014 #31
In the summer, how long does it take you to tan? Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #32
I've been pulled over a couple times by cops NickB79 Oct 2014 #38
Apparently his ex girlfriend is a liar. She should be charged with a crime. Cops should sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #28
Forget the girlfriend, its the cops who need to be sued. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #36
That is a jury that I would love to serve on. avebury Oct 2014 #11
I would think you could hand cuff him before tazing him 7 times. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #12
Unfuckingbelievable onecaliberal Oct 2014 #18
I didn't realize the doctor was Black. That explains it. I hope he files a civil rights law suit sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #29
Blue Ash PD.....Figures KentuckyWoman Oct 2014 #21
Yay cops! 99Forever Oct 2014 #37
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