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13. I was around a couple of members of "the culture" last night

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:24 AM

Oct 2014

They had just finished shooting a couple of deer on the property and were back at the house, a grandniece of mine and her father. Grandniece is about 12 and was waving the scoped rifle around a bit more casually than I was comfortable with, I was keeping my eye on it and moving around the room to try and stay out of any line of possible fire. If the bolt had been open I would have relaxed but it wasn't and I had no idea if the rifle was loaded, cocked, on safety or what.

You're right in that they "don't get" people who are made nervous by guns, I think I was the only one in the room who was even paying attention to where the rifle was pointing.

That's damn sure not how I remember being taught to handle guns back when I was on the target shooting team in HS.

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HERE ARE THE HIGH SCHOOL GUN PHOTOS! [View all] TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 OP

Tacky, linuxman Oct 2014 #1

Well, moms and dads may want senior portraits TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #2

I don't think people were thinking guns at school kcr Oct 2014 #3

I know, they are going to be horrible snooper2 Oct 2014 #4

Not everyone has lived around or understands the culture kcr Oct 2014 #7

I was around a couple of members of "the culture" last night Fumesucker Oct 2014 #13

Yet you did nothing sarisataka Oct 2014 #19

It wasn't my place, figuratively and literally Fumesucker Oct 2014 #35

Yes it is sarisataka Oct 2014 #41

A non-gunner speak up to a room full of gun enthusiasts? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #65

If I may speak candidly sarisataka Oct 2014 #68

That's not the least functional branch by a substantial margin.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #84

Sounds very familiar sarisataka Oct 2014 #89

I took my kids out to my uncle's farm d_r Oct 2014 #82

Not to Pile on You Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #150

I was asking myself if it was just a matter of perception.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #190

When a 12 year old is casually swinging around a gun that might be loaded - adigal Oct 2014 #254

I've lived around it my whole life and think the whole culture is disgusting and dangerous. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #14

You know, there a a lot of democrats even in "that culture." TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #20

So, nobody is ever supposed to say anything bad about guns and religion because Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #51

"The whole culture is disgusting and dangerous?" TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #56

The whole gun culture, yes. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #80

Have you or your family had to hunt for survival? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #99

There's a reason I don't have guns in the house. I understand. kcr Oct 2014 #22

Put BLACK faces on this pics and imagine the response randys1 Oct 2014 #153

I was thinking the SAAAAAME thing. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #170

How is this relevant? mybuddy Oct 2014 #215

Is that dog sabbat hunter Oct 2014 #209

This guy doesn't look like a high school senior to me jmowreader Oct 2014 #253

Well, to me that's a horrible picture for a yearbook. MH1 Oct 2014 #255

There were several comments about guns at school. TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #9

Maybe, but the point is the pictures of the guns n/t kcr Oct 2014 #24

And in that small community, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the guns in pics TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #29

I grew up in a hunting culture. In the winter, the only meat we ate was hunted meat. We didn't Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #48

sigh TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #54

Well, who wouldn't want to be photographed with the thing they love best? Aristus Oct 2014 #5

If you're implying what I think you're implying, that certainly casts a different light petronius Oct 2014 #217

Kids who love their pets, I got no problem with. Aristus Oct 2014 #226

That young lady in the first picture has a nice rack Fla_Democrat Oct 2014 #6

For a minute there NV Whino Oct 2014 #8

The pics don't creep me out even a little bit.. KinMd Oct 2014 #10

Well, they kinda do creep me out. calimary Oct 2014 #73

Why would a hunter be a lost soul? hack89 Oct 2014 #85

She had no business shooting that particular weapon TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #88

Well, that sure doesn't stop anybody. calimary Oct 2014 #97

In our family, the kids did not get Jenoch Oct 2014 #103

Slight difference of opinion: the bb gun bit. riqster Oct 2014 #202

Lost souls? Really? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #101

I don't have a dog - or a gun - in this fight but MissB Oct 2014 #11

LOL TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #16

You know what... NV Whino Oct 2014 #12

Oh, GOD. The Drape. TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #17

Funeral black. NV Whino Oct 2014 #21

Not everyone looks so great in black. TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #25

The "drape" standard is far more bizarre to me. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #95

Wow. How lame. If that's all I had to feel excited about and connected to, I'd GTF out of there. kysrsoze Oct 2014 #15

Gives me the creeps. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #18

You really don't know SHIT. TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #23

Well, we have a sick, twisted gun fetish culture in this country. It really is creepy. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #26

Agree.. it is a creepy obsession. mountain grammy Oct 2014 #66

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #27

Yikes. I'd rather not answer that one. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #28

Perhaps then sarisataka Oct 2014 #32

The whole gun-worshipm gun-fetish culture is creepy, deadly, and makes me sick. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #34

Agreed! Totally creepy. LeftinOH Oct 2014 #37

You are entitled to express your opinion sarisataka Oct 2014 #45

My candor is what is highly disturbing? Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #49

Yes, to claim a teen aged girl has sexual feelings sarisataka Oct 2014 #57

thank you! TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #63

There are some doozies out there sarisataka Oct 2014 #74

My oldest brother wore a leisure suit in his senior photo. Jenoch Oct 2014 #110

There is a huge sexual element to the gun fetishization in this country. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #83

Holy shit, you actually doubled down joeglow3 Oct 2014 #105

Yeah, this isn't the Gungeon. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #158

Never been to the "gungeon" joeglow3 Oct 2014 #191

I must say sarisataka Oct 2014 #112

yes, I agree Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #199

Perfect! Thanks for the Little Britain clip. Never saw it before, won't forget it! n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #256

So you condemn this guy also because he's part of the whole gun-fetish culture? GGJohn Oct 2014 #111

Ack! He is a Black Man With a Gun!!! Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #156

Jury results: EX500rider Oct 2014 #174

jury results: wherein the biter gets bit pscot Oct 2014 #181

Weird hide.. EX500rider Oct 2014 #188

Actually, if you reread the posts in question Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #201

I feel the same way, Arugula Latte. calimary Oct 2014 #198

It's just under two weeks Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #203

Yeah. No kidding. calimary Oct 2014 #235

Three victims in extended family to drunk drivers TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #249

And we have massive media campaigns against drunk driving Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #250

And we sure don't have mass media campaigns against reckless gun usage, either. calimary Oct 2014 #252

Creeps me out not one whit. Seeking Serenity Oct 2014 #30

Seems like they all favor the sniper rifle scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #31

Some serious ignorance in your post Lurks Often Oct 2014 #43

Trooper ambush suspect Frein may be relying on sniper training manual scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #53

It's not a "Sniper Rifle" just because it's a bolt action gun with a scope. Adrahil Oct 2014 #62

I wouldn't be so sure scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #93

How often do snipers use shotguns Jenoch Oct 2014 #127

<sigh> Yeah.... Adrahil Oct 2014 #138

True, but what's your point? benEzra Oct 2014 #145

So a rifle from 1874, shooting a black powder cartridge Lurks Often Oct 2014 #251

They don't care DashOneBravo Oct 2014 #218

If a scoped rifle is being used for sniping, it's a sniper rifle. benEzra Oct 2014 #67

What an actual sniper rifle looks like: EX500rider Oct 2014 #175

Marine M40 sniper rifle scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #179

The M40 was introduced in 1966. EX500rider Oct 2014 #182

I don't have a problem with people with hunting rifles. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #33

Incredibly tacky. If these kids were African-American LeftinOH Oct 2014 #36

http://africanamericanhuntingassociation.com/index.htm TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #40

Actually, even in the south, most people would be highly receptive TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #44

In the rural parts of Northern CA also. GGJohn Oct 2014 #58

this is the kind of shit that makes us look as stupid as them Kali Oct 2014 #38

Truly GusBob Oct 2014 #60

Agreed. Texasgal Oct 2014 #212

very tacky. why don't we have people pose with their computers and iphones as they are integral to samsingh Oct 2014 #39

Here's one for ya' TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #47

The ignorance.....it burns.... joeglow3 Oct 2014 #108

Whatever leftynyc Oct 2014 #42

Have no problem with hunting, but I wonder how many of those kids will end up like this. Hoyt Oct 2014 #46

Probably as much to fear as this guy making a bomb TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #50

At least they had the good sense to restrict the poses so we don't have any like this. Hoyt Oct 2014 #52

Probably not part of their lifestyle TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #55

Probably is. No normal kid would choose to appear in a HS annual with guns, nowadays. Hoyt Oct 2014 #59

By guns, I believe you are excluding hunting rifles? TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #61

I suspect if the school board had been stupid enough, there would have been some of this. Hoyt Oct 2014 #94

You're telling us that those kids, who grew up in a hunting culture, still hunt, GGJohn Oct 2014 #69

I'm telling you a high school kid has a problem if gunz are that important to who they are. Hoyt Oct 2014 #70

And I'm telling you that those high school seniors don't have a problem, GGJohn Oct 2014 #72

It's not THE GUN. It's hunting TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #77

He can't possibly comment intelligently AT ALL if he thinks that he can be the authority Maedhros Oct 2014 #96

IN my experience? Not many. Adrahil Oct 2014 #64

I bet he's not just into hunting weapons. Does he carry in public? Hoyt Oct 2014 #71

why would they? dionysus Oct 2014 #79

Hang on Hoyt DashOneBravo Oct 2014 #222

Guns to some Liberals are like Muslims to some Conservatives. dilby Oct 2014 #75

Yeah, it's so weird how people don't like the daily high death toll from guns in this country. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #159

+1 Hoyt Oct 2014 #195

"don't like the daily high death toll from guns" EX500rider Oct 2014 #196

Nice pics. bigwillq Oct 2014 #76

not my cup of tea, but it's not like these kids are dressed in fatigues and pointing rifles at the dionysus Oct 2014 #78

What do guns have to do with academics? procon Oct 2014 #81

You mean back in the ol' days :) TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #90

Anti gun extremists are not rational people. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #86

The kids posing with their cars are the ones that scare me hack89 Oct 2014 #87

I actually like this one... TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #91

If I were sixteen TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #98

What, you didn't notice... TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #106

No, I hadn't! TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #118

My siblings and I all got class rings. Jenoch Oct 2014 #115

Gunz, jebezus, and Chevrolet notrightatall Oct 2014 #121

A real life walking cliche MattBaggins Oct 2014 #232

I don't know why but I am Number23 Oct 2014 #246

I object to a lot of gun fetishism and associated paranoid behaviors, Maedhros Oct 2014 #92

THANK YOU for so succinctly writing TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #100

Prefrontal cortex doesn't mature until age 25, so judgment doesn't mature until then. valerief Oct 2014 #102

You mean like this guy? GGJohn Oct 2014 #113

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service LostOne4Ever Oct 2014 #171

Congrats. You've just argued that half of our military personnel B2G Oct 2014 #116

I agree. Military personnel should be age 25 or older. nt valerief Oct 2014 #117

Good luck with that. B2G Oct 2014 #120

I think not allowing them to kill is enough for now. nt valerief Oct 2014 #123

So no military service until the age of 26 B2G Oct 2014 #128

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? nt valerief Oct 2014 #131

Just verifying I have your position correct B2G Oct 2014 #132

But they can consume alcohol? nt hack89 Oct 2014 #133

So the drinking age should also be 25? hack89 Oct 2014 #126

Don't forget driving! We can't let people with no judgment, Seeking Serenity Oct 2014 #134

that isn't correct d_r Oct 2014 #144

You're right. It doesn't "mature" until age 25 or later. nt valerief Oct 2014 #193

So no voting till 26 either? Or sex? Or driving? EX500rider Oct 2014 #176

It finishes developing by 25 and judgment exists prior to that. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #228

If kids can get suspended for drawing a picture of a gun... notrightatall Oct 2014 #104

Betcha' they don't have stupid zero tolerance laws, either :( TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #109

I find the photos offensive and innappropriate. hunter Oct 2014 #107

Luckily they probably don't much care what you or others find offensive and innappropriate. GGJohn Oct 2014 #114

No worries, my feelings are not hurt. hunter Oct 2014 #139

Queerbait? GGJohn Oct 2014 #140

"Gun fetishes are simply incomprehensible to me." EX500rider Oct 2014 #183

Yes. hunter Oct 2014 #186

Your posts on this thread make curious Jenoch Oct 2014 #207

It's my name. hunter Oct 2014 #229

And the school board disagreed with you 6-0 Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #122

Columbine. Sandy Hook. How soon we forget... hunter Oct 2014 #141

I think typing your title in all caps adds a certain sense of gravity and stolid reasoning to your p LanternWaste Oct 2014 #119

Actually, I was trying to make sure those pics would get seen TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #124

They are nice pictures for advertisements or stock photos Renew Deal Oct 2014 #125

I only see white kids in the photos. azmom Oct 2014 #129

Nebraska is 90% white. hack89 Oct 2014 #135

That is really white. azmom Oct 2014 #143

Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire are the whitest states at 96% hack89 Oct 2014 #146

Was just reading up on Nebraska. azmom Oct 2014 #151

devils advocate would say the murder rate in NE KinMd Oct 2014 #166

Well, I'm brown and azmom Oct 2014 #168

As is Arizona.. EX500rider Oct 2014 #177

True, azmom Oct 2014 #187

Makes it easy to point out to my granddaughter photos with a guy's priority on display. Tikki Oct 2014 #130

Nice pic, but I bet that lab in the hunting photo is well loved TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #136

The young man in the gun photo wants to be known as a hunter, the young man in the animal rescue Tikki Oct 2014 #137

Without my props I'm nobody! moondust Oct 2014 #142

Hooray for gun porn! 99Forever Oct 2014 #147

People wonder why d_r Oct 2014 #148

Please don't assume we don't understand...The photo poses were chosen to support a lifestyle choice. Tikki Oct 2014 #152

Please tell me a place in the U.S. in which someone can Jenoch Oct 2014 #154

That has nothing to do with these photos. These young people and their families approve... Tikki Oct 2014 #157

Of course hunting is what these photos are about. Jenoch Oct 2014 #184

We have seen on DU often about how many have to hunt for their food. Tikki Oct 2014 #185

Hunting is regulated in all 50 states. Jenoch Oct 2014 #192

So you are saying...No one has to hunt for food!! Don't tell me, tell those here that remind us... Tikki Oct 2014 #194

I'm sorry Tikki, Jenoch Oct 2014 #197

I have no problem understanding...talk to those who say people must hunt for food or starve. Tikki Oct 2014 #204

What exactly is your point here? Jenoch Oct 2014 #205

How does this: 'ODDS are they aren't hunting daily for their food to stay alive'....turn into Tikki Oct 2014 #206

You brought up 'hunting daily'. Jenoch Oct 2014 #208

In all honesty this goes back to a debate a while back here on whether there should be Tikki Oct 2014 #213

Do you happen to have a link to that thread? Jenoch Oct 2014 #214

I didn't save that discussion. It may have been in the gun forum. Tikki Oct 2014 #220

I think the medival and goth stuff is much more Jenoch Oct 2014 #221

And this is really where we disagree. Tikki Oct 2014 #225

The mistake you are making is Jenoch Oct 2014 #227

I'm not assuming anyone d_r Oct 2014 #173

And those southern midwestern folks MattBaggins Oct 2014 #233

If this is common, why is it news? tridim Oct 2014 #149

Did you read the story? Jenoch Oct 2014 #155

The school in question is in Broken Bow Ne KinMd Oct 2014 #160

I'm still baffled as to why anyone would object to these photos. Jenoch Oct 2014 #162

Also on farms they have guns to protect livestock from predators KinMd Oct 2014 #167

Right. Leave the guns on the damn farm. tridim Oct 2014 #172

"Don't be a dick and pose with your killing machines" EX500rider Oct 2014 #180

It appears that the young man Jenoch Oct 2014 #210

So...Los Altos Hill California...in a gun control State has not had a murder in a decade. Tikki Oct 2014 #163

I agree, my points was cause these kids pose with hunting rifles.. KinMd Oct 2014 #165

I never said they were dangerous. I said, this is the way these young people want to be defined... Tikki Oct 2014 #169

Your last statement is absolutely false. Jenoch Oct 2014 #211

What makes them gun nuts? tridim Oct 2014 #161

Read post #162. Jenoch Oct 2014 #164

But guns cause instant, sudden DEATHS much more than football and horses. alp227 Oct 2014 #178

if they were black riverwalker Oct 2014 #189

^^TRUTH^^....America is a racist nation. Double standard for blacks. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #230

Good for them Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #200

.... bigwillq Oct 2014 #224

I don't see the big deal even if I don't really like them. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #216

.... bigwillq Oct 2014 #223

I note the suffering Jesus in the Chevy logo - LiberalElite Oct 2014 #219

Tackiest thing I have ever seen in my life MattBaggins Oct 2014 #234

Lookit how clean that truck is. Ugh, there's nothing worse than affluent fake rednecks. nt LeftyMom Oct 2014 #236

That's got to be the most idiotic statement yet, GGJohn Oct 2014 #238

Washed, yes. But that thing's remarkably free of dents and scratches. It's not a working truck. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #239

That doesn't prove a damn thing, GGJohn Oct 2014 #240

Oh you're talking to the wrong girl. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #242

I'm not pulling anything, I'm an old Chevy affectionado, GGJohn Oct 2014 #244

One other thing. GGJohn Oct 2014 #241

Because that's where it gets fucked up fastest doing truck stuff. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #243

Stand by your call, but you're more than likely wrong. GGJohn Oct 2014 #245

And dickheads make statements like that. Safe bet. TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #248

ANDY KAUFMAN IS NOT DEAD. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #237

Yet another thing white people can do MattBaggins Oct 2014 #231

So cute! JuliaJasmine Oct 2014 #247