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Savannahmann

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44. I find it nearly impossible to believe that Michael Brown turned and charged.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:27 PM
Oct 2014

Why did he run when the gun was fired? Fear. Fear, and the desire to escape. Blood splatter according to the reports shows he was shot in the car, probably in the arm. Even with adrenalin, he would know he had been shot. So he ran. Totally consistent with the emotional fight/flight response.

Next gunshots. He surrendered, turning to see the danger and see that it was abated. Again, totally consistent with fear.

Michael Brown grew up in a disadvantaged area, one with a fairly high crime rate. St. Louis and the surrounding areas are not known as bastions of genteel society. Nobody gets to 18 years old in the hood without knowing about violence first hand. Nobody who grew up in the hood is and who has survived long enough to reach 18 is dumb enough to charge at a man pointing a gun at them.

I know, I grew up surrounded by neighborhoods like that. When gunshots go off, people scatter, or they freeze in fear, or they surrender, or they shoot back. They don't run, stop, turn, and attack. Anyone that dumb wouldn't live to reach 18.

Ferguson's crime stats. http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ferguson-Missouri.html

I'm not saying that Ferguson is like the town I grew up in. I'm not saying that it is anything like the Barrio that was just across the main street from my neighborhood. But there is always violence in the cities, and the kids grow up understanding it far more than you can imagine. Michael was a survivor, he'd survived until the age of 18, which in most cities is no small feat. He knew about guns. He had heard them growing up. Nobody who grew up in that environment would be stupid enough to run, turn, and then attack.

My experience with violence, and the rationality/irrationality is a little different. When I first moved into the neighborhood in California, I was known as Gringo. After a couple years, it became Blanco. I learned to speak half assed spanish in self defense, to know when someone was after me. A persons actions are always logical, to them. You have to learn to see it from their point of view. You have to learn to understand what they are doing, and why. No one from any halfway rough neighborhood does what the police assert Michael did. They just don't do it. By the time you've reached 18 you already know to duck when someone is shooting. Your head is on a swivel, looking for danger. You strut and pose because you know if you look tough enough, then someone may not attack you. If your knee hurts, you don't let it show, because if you do you are showing weakness, and you are showing that you can be a victim.

Darren Wilson did not have to fire his weapon when Michael turned around. He had more than thirty feet of distance. He had a second to see what was happening. He had a second to evaluate the situation. Instead he started shooting and did not stop until Michael had been hit in the head twice. There was no assessment of the situation after any of the shots, he just kept firing even when one of the bullets had already ended the victims life.

Darren Wilson was going for revenge, how dare this child attack me? I'm a cop, and you don't disrespect me. That is the only answer that makes any sense, and that is why the people of Ferguson are outraged. It was one more death, one too many in a long line of needless deaths. The citizens of Ferguson know all of this, but they have a hard time explaining it. But to those who have lived it, they know bullshit when they hear it. Because Michael Wilson would have died long before 18 if he was dumb enough to do what is suggested. You can't get away with it, you can't pull the trick off. Not from thirty plus feet away. Five or six feet, I might believe, but not thirty plus.

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That doesn't really sound like an autopsy report TransitJohn Oct 2014 #1
They are both there. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #2
How was I supposed to know that? TransitJohn Oct 2014 #3
Click the link? n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #4
Of course you would say that. TransitJohn Oct 2014 #5
Gee, John, no need to be so irritable. Nitram Oct 2014 #6
God forbid! TransitJohn Oct 2014 #7
It's not really either... Oktober Oct 2014 #9
Since people seem to be click challenged today . . . Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #13
Click challenged doesn't really mean... Oktober Oct 2014 #20
Is clicking, skimming, and then clicking to the underlying material really that challenging? n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #43
Just like the cops wanted it to, the narrative plays out exactly the way Wilson said. Rex Oct 2014 #8
so the medical examiners and FBI are in on it? snooper2 Oct 2014 #11
Why would they have to be in on it? Rex Oct 2014 #12
Well, I actually read the entire report, no gunshot wounds in the back- snooper2 Oct 2014 #14
The report kept saying homicide, I guess that is why Wilson fled like a coward. Rex Oct 2014 #15
I noticed that but figured it was just how medical examiners write to be accurate snooper2 Oct 2014 #18
Maybe. Rex Oct 2014 #19
If he fled within the boundaries of law... Oktober Oct 2014 #22
So you don't know what he did right after killing Brown? Rex Oct 2014 #41
Aside from anything pertaining to law... Oktober Oct 2014 #42
Fled? What did I miss? Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #25
You're deliberately misstating what Dorian Johnson actually said, so much so that it KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #31
It's sad watching people pretend to be ignorant of the circumstances. Rex Oct 2014 #40
Let me ask you this. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #21
I would suggest... Oktober Oct 2014 #23
I find it nearly impossible to believe that Michael Brown turned and charged. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #44
You are projecting... Oktober Oct 2014 #45
I am analyzing. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #46
You have a... unique... interpretation of the word analyze... Oktober Oct 2014 #47
Then tell me where I'm wrong. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #48
When adrenaline is pumping people make choices that seem illogical Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #24
My first experience was in 1988 Savannahmann Oct 2014 #32
Where this falls apart for me (as an outsider looking in) justiceischeap Oct 2014 #34
who is leaking this shit? spanone Oct 2014 #10
Ferguson PD. Rex Oct 2014 #16
The Ferguson PD, St Louis County PD and Prosecutor are all acting on behalf of Darren Wilson alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #17
If it weren't for those pesky eye-witnesses ... AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #26
But we all know that in this country, the majority of the time, the po-po is right. nc4bo Oct 2014 #27
I hope the Justice Dept is breathing down their necks. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #33
three shots to the head of an unarmed person.... murder. spanone Oct 2014 #28
In some cases... certainly... Oktober Oct 2014 #29
in this case. murder. spanone Oct 2014 #35
None of that sounds like an autopsy Recursion Oct 2014 #30
a lot of people in this thread are having clicky link issues LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #36
I did click, and got a series of tweets from... somebody? Recursion Oct 2014 #37
See post 13 up above snooper2 Oct 2014 #38
Umm... that's an autopsy that more or less confirms Wilson's story Recursion Oct 2014 #39
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