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Ms. Toad

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27. They are not behaving as if they know how serious Ebola is.

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:52 AM

Oct 2014

And all I can go by is how they behave.

You don't fly on a plane with a low grade fever if you have been exposed and are in the incubation period. You just don't, if you have any sense at all about how serious Ebola is.

The reports for this doctor are conflicting, but all the reports I have seen put his first symptoms on Tuesday - 2 days before he isolated himself. Some reports put his more serious symptoms (fever, pain, and nausea) on Wednesday - when he was bowling, riding the subways and taking taxis. Others put them on Thursday. He should have taken himself out of circulation on Tuesday - and if he really did have a fever, pain, fatigue, and nausea on Wednesday, there is no excuse for continuing to be out and about.

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Already they are blaming the victim in the New York Ebola case.... Dr Spencer [View all] diabeticman Oct 2014 OP

He did what he was supposed to and I wish the best for him and his girlfriend. uppityperson Oct 2014 #1

Very well said, sir. Thank you for your post. Dr. Spencer is a hero. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #2

The adult conversation that needs to be had Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #3

He got a fever today and got into the hospital 2 hours. He was NOT a threat before. diabeticman Oct 2014 #4

The science is not that absolute. Read the peer reviewed studies - Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #8

His temp was 100.3, not 103. Transcription error compounded by media feeding frenzy. uppityperson Oct 2014 #62

As someone exposed to Liberia, he was supposed to be under observation for 21 days, pnwmom Oct 2014 #19

He started to feel "sluggish"on Tuesday, and that was too many days after his flight pnwmom Oct 2014 #23

Particularly in view of Vinson's recent experience - Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #34

And he's no doubt heard plenty of medical histories that began with fatigue as the first symptom. nt pnwmom Oct 2014 #35

A-freaking-men Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #5

I see no evidence that Dr. Spencer acted irresponsibly. He isolated himself when he got a fever and greatlaurel Oct 2014 #6

I am interested in making sure that people understand that they when they have been exposed, Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #10

Your facts appear incorrect. The experts at the news conference did not say that. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #24

There are currently inconsistent versions being reported. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #33

Well, I do not think I used any vulgarities, but I did watch the news conference where the facts greatlaurel Oct 2014 #36

There have been several, mostly in connection with Nurse vinson Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #37

Of course he acted irresponsibly. cali Oct 2014 #49

You mean do like he did? Isolate, call authorities when symptoms started, detailing his travels? uppityperson Oct 2014 #7

He was bowling on Wednesday. LisaL Oct 2014 #9

Before he had symptoms. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #14

Bowling, several subways, and a taxi Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #12

"when symptoms started" he isolated himself, called authorities. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #13

When did they start? LisaL Oct 2014 #16

And that means Wed he did not have symptoms. Wed is the day before Thur. uppityperson Oct 2014 #21

Then why did you post that article from fox news saying otherwise? LisaL Oct 2014 #22

I think we are going in circles here. I am done, will wait to see what is released tomorrow. uppityperson Oct 2014 #26

We will have to see what the timeline really is. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #18

Yes, he certainly didn't isolate himself in his apartment on Wednesday. LisaL Oct 2014 #15

What MsToad said in the reply below this. uppityperson Oct 2014 #17

There seem to be conflicting reports about when his syptoms started. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #20

He didn't isolate himself on Wednesday. He took a subway around the city Wednesday night pnwmom Oct 2014 #28

There seem to be conflicting accounts on different media sources. I am done for tonight, will wait uppityperson Oct 2014 #29

You're right -- time will tell. Hopefully. nt pnwmom Oct 2014 #31

Just starting Du today, did you see this? Temp was 100.3, not 103, "transcription error" uppityperson Oct 2014 #61

Yes, that's a good sign for degree of contagion,hopefully. And also a reminder pnwmom Oct 2014 #64

Indeed. He called before his temp got to CDC recommended level, good for him. uppityperson Oct 2014 #65

I agree. I think there is a natural tendency for people to go into denial at first, because Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #39

Yep Dorian Gray Oct 2014 #44

It sounds like he monitored himself gwheezie Oct 2014 #11

They are not behaving as if they know how serious Ebola is. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #27

+100 840high Oct 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #58

+++++++ uppityperson Oct 2014 #32

I can't even discuss ebola anymore Marrah_G Oct 2014 #25

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #30

I think anyone who has contact with ebola patients needs to be super careful for 3 weeks. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #38

what really has me scared barbtries Oct 2014 #40

agree marions ghost Oct 2014 #55

Pretty bad, isn't it... ReRe Oct 2014 #41

I admire Dr. Spencer and wish many more American doctors lexington filly Oct 2014 #42

The voice of reason -- thank you! markpkessinger Oct 2014 #43

It's not as if a Doctor would know to remain isolated after handling Ebola seveneyes Oct 2014 #45

Actually as an MD he'd know there were many things that might have made him feel ill HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #47

thank you for this. per various sources this morning... magical thyme Oct 2014 #46

100.3, not 103, new report about "transcription error" of his actual temp. oops uppityperson Oct 2014 #63

Thank you for posting. Ilsa Oct 2014 #48

Well, if he didn't throw like 10 gutter balls Shankapotomus Oct 2014 #50

My Wife throw more gutter balls than that... So does that mean she has ebola too? diabeticman Oct 2014 #51

Yes...yes it does. Shankapotomus Oct 2014 #52

I heard that anything over 7 gutter balls, is a red flag for EBOLA.. yup OLDMADAM Oct 2014 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #53

The fatigue could have been the result of jet lag. IT IS THE FEVER that is the FIRST symptom of diabeticman Oct 2014 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #56

Sorry, no can do...... daleanime Oct 2014 #59