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In reply to the discussion: WAIT! So FDP Officer Wilson, whos ILLEGALLY refusing to make a report for fear of being incriminated [View all]hfojvt
(37,573 posts)but if the citizens choose to attack the cop, then it is THEIR choice that is leading to the death.
No, the robbery is not connected to the shooting (although it helps to explain WHY Brown would attack instead of just moving on to the sidewalk.) But it does tend to show that Brown is not the most upstanding citizen in the town.
And as far as police in the UK, well they are dealing with a less homicidal population. UK's homicide rate is 1/4 what ours is.
And what is the thing that made this encounter not go like this?
"So, the cop saw two kids walking down the street. What would happen in a civilized society? It happens all the time in civilized societies. The cop would say something like 'hey guys, can you walk on the sidewalk'? The kids would say 'sure', cop would say 'thanks' and everyone stays alive."
What went different? Did the cop say (as Johnson claims) "get the fuck out of the street."
Is that somehow the end of the world? Wouldn't a couple of good kids just move onto the sidewalk and then say to each other "what a jerk, what the hell is his problem?" Cop drives off and everyone stays alive.
Why are you so sure that Brown did NOT attack Wilson through the open window? Because Johnson said so? Johnson who already lied, and tells a story that is nearly impossible and makes no sense at all.
Can you explain why a person would try to pull a larger person onto their lap? Does that really make sense to you?
Second, is it really believable that a smaller person would even be ABLE to pull a much larger man around? Supposedly he hit him with a door, and the door bounced back. So then he reaches out with ONE hand and pulls Mike into the vehicle? Like I said, then he must be able to bench press 300 pounds with one hand or something. I mean that is one incredibly strong arm if you believe that story - to be able to pull a 280 pound man around. And lightning fast too. I mean, if a cop tried to open his door and hit me with the door, I would probably jump back. Yet before Mike could do that, Wilson recovered from the door unexpectedly closing on him, takes his hand off the door handle and quickly grabs Brown by the throat. Those are some lightning quick reflexes if Johnson's story is to be believed.
To me, believing Johnson's story requires a couple large leaps of faith. I don't have that much faith. Wilson's story, that Brown attacked him through the open window, takes far less faith.