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sendero

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106. What every one seems to be ignoring here..

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 08:29 AM

Oct 2014

... is that he apparently hit one guy and four jumped him. That cannot be legal or right, the guy he hit has a right to defend himself perhaps but he doesn't have to take a gang beating over it.

Standing up to bullies has its limits for sure, you can't stand up to four of them at once.

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Bullied Teen Lands In Hospital After Being Beaten, School Presses Charges � Against Bullied Teen [View all] KamaAina Oct 2014 OP

Oh no they didn't shenmue Oct 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author The Magistrate Oct 2014 #4

And sue the officials individually, not the school or other government organizations... cascadiance Oct 2014 #7

The suit would just get tossed. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #17

And we need to get rid of that shit for cops too. nt 7962 Oct 2014 #36

And for corporate brass too, like the BP officials who MURDERED their employees... cascadiance Oct 2014 #43

Qualified immunity is bullshit. If a cop loses a case, the defendant ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #84

That may not work. Officials are protected as long as they remain within 20score Oct 2014 #86

WHAT THE F**K? secondwind Oct 2014 #52

Wish the attorney general's office would get involved TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #129

What. The. Fucking. Fuck. Initech Oct 2014 #2

He should have pulled a gun and shot them, then claimed "Stand Your Ground." n/t crim son Oct 2014 #149

The US is not the worse, but it's often a sick fucken place in many ways! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #3

Not One I Can Safely Express Myself Fully On, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #5

Magisterial DUzy! KamaAina Oct 2014 #6

They already do. Just too unfeeling to be aware that they are the cause. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #42

Most school administrators are teet sucking bureaucrats Dawson Leery Oct 2014 #8

We live in a bully society. The school and prosecutor sided with the bullies. This is typical rhett o rick Oct 2014 #9

Agree as usual, except the sports part Deny and Shred Oct 2014 #57

I disagree in the area of sports. The bullying on the court is mimicked in the gym and on the rhett o rick Oct 2014 #63

Sports have become meaner in my lifetime Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2014 #132

I agree. It's more about domination than having a good competition. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #134

Sports? How about the way the US goes to war? Bozvotros Oct 2014 #151

But the question then becomes . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #74

Violence is glorified on TV, Hollywood movies, Deny and Shred Oct 2014 #99

Sure, some coaches can do this . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #114

Bullying is glorified in every aspect of our lives. This OP points out rhett o rick Oct 2014 #157

Oh, please. Do you honestly believe that most high-school coaches -- radicalliberal Aug 2015 #168

Tell that to nonathletic boys who are bullied in mandatory P.E. classes. n/t radicalliberal Aug 2015 #167

Very True Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #100

You've got that right! get the red out Oct 2014 #102

I can't help but feel that there is something missing to this story. linuxman Oct 2014 #10

What leads you to this conclusion? LanternWaste Oct 2014 #13

The charges don't match the story. linuxman Oct 2014 #19

Well said MontyPow Oct 2014 #27

Provoking speech or gestures bl968 Oct 2014 #34

Huh. linuxman Oct 2014 #37

PFC I think Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #138

The military also has a charge for adultery, article 134 Quackers Oct 2014 #44

Article 134 is the General Article jmowreader Oct 2014 #82

Exactly. pangaia Oct 2014 #46

that's exactly why I don't like it when people use a source so obviously biased TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #116

easy acquittal...the kid was abused for years noiretextatique Oct 2014 #73

is it tho? redruddyred Oct 2014 #93

Snapped suggests something like temporary loss of willful control HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #96

+1 freedom fighter jh Oct 2014 #83

we need to write new laws to deal with cases of ongoing abuse. redruddyred Oct 2014 #92

I'm not familiar with the law on assaults but TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #115

There is in the law the concept of fighting words. Sam1 Oct 2014 #158

more details ... sunnystarr Oct 2014 #35

Thanks, that helps. pangaia Oct 2014 #49

I'm glad I don't have kids get the red out Oct 2014 #104

well, there's this... TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #95

True nature of the assult get the red out Oct 2014 #103

I wonder if the kids who beat him half to death Lydia Leftcoast Oct 2014 #133

Those were the reasons in my HS get the red out Oct 2014 #137

Here you go...................................... Fla Dem Oct 2014 #120

fucking hell BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #11

I got bullied back in the 60's. Finally learned to fight back. riqster Oct 2014 #12

Fighting back doesn't solve anything. hunter Oct 2014 #32

Fighting back does work. christx30 Oct 2014 #48

Did you even read the story? Mariana Oct 2014 #76

Yes I read the story, christx30 Oct 2014 #81

My experiences taught me a different lesson. riqster Oct 2014 #55

No, it doesn't solve anything, but it can win some distance Scootaloo Oct 2014 #79

Except when it does... Oktober Oct 2014 #94

I agree get the red out Oct 2014 #107

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOw44VFNk8Y The CCC Oct 2014 #14

He was beaten so severely he had a brain injury while his attackers were unharmed. kcr Oct 2014 #16

Depends on what caused the brain injury. dilby Oct 2014 #21

Actually, there is such a thing as fighting words bluestateguy Oct 2014 #18

Actually, there is such a thing as fighting words The CCC Oct 2014 #22

That may well be BUT he's NOT in California, The CCC.... Ecumenist Oct 2014 #97

Yea Bullies! get the red out Oct 2014 #105

This is why the right to self-defense needs to be a part of any conversation about stopping bullying bluestateguy Oct 2014 #15

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #20

Three posts. All defending the bullies. n/t ieoeja Oct 2014 #24

Yeah, you're right. linuxman Oct 2014 #26

"Fuck you, asshole!" is an invite to fight. ieoeja Oct 2014 #28

No, still no call for violence. linuxman Oct 2014 #31

And if those words go on for months christx30 Oct 2014 #50

I addressed that linuxman Oct 2014 #53

I don't think you did. christx30 Oct 2014 #54

Well, I did. linuxman Oct 2014 #56

Oh I read that. christx30 Oct 2014 #59

Thank you. n/t ieoeja Oct 2014 #119

No "call for violence"? liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #123

Emotional abuse is far worse then physical abuse... Lancero Oct 2014 #140

If those words were outlawed for use, most of DU would be in jail. 7962 Oct 2014 #38

:) ieoeja Oct 2014 #39

Good. Good. I like it... pangaia Oct 2014 #51

it's obvious why you got into so many fights in the past TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Oct 2014 #131

So if someone picks a fight with me and I accept ... I'm the bad guy? ieoeja Oct 2014 #135

Yes, seriously TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #147

It's not a matter of "insults." Scootaloo Oct 2014 #80

+1000 nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #87

Thank you! n/t ieoeja Oct 2014 #118

as for those people that are supposed to help you TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #130

Those bullies stalked him. In other words, they were committing a crime against him. stevenleser Oct 2014 #68

Seems to me if "Stand Your Ground" is legal, Fla Dem Oct 2014 #122

American school administrators get a complete F on adequately dealing with bullies. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #23

We have an active anti-bullying campaign out here KamaAina Oct 2014 #25

That looks like an awesome program. Our SD has Rachel's Challenge Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #30

Sadly, we have an active pro-bullying campaign up-thread. n/t ieoeja Oct 2014 #40

Eric Martin's parents should sue the school and the kids who bullied him. That's the only Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #29

Schools have an absolute duty bl968 Oct 2014 #33

I was almost expelled knownow Oct 2014 #41

WTF? KamaAina Oct 2014 #61

It was my fault knownow Oct 2014 #155

Welcome, Knownow.....Right Glad tameetcha!! Ecumenist Oct 2014 #98

thank you knownow Oct 2014 #154

schools and parents back then very often acted like bullying was TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #136

my sister my tormentor knownow Oct 2014 #153

one of my brothers was my tormentor TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #156

I've had a friend who went through similar... Lancero Oct 2014 #139

thank you knownow Oct 2014 #152

Sick fucks. raven mad Oct 2014 #45

Henrico, Virginia abelenkpe Oct 2014 #47

Ouch! A beloved ex-DUer lives right near there KamaAina Oct 2014 #62

I have a lot of respect for dems able to tough it abelenkpe Oct 2014 #64

The school is very diverse, so it's not clear if these were "redneck" kids or not. Wella Oct 2014 #69

Yeah it was diverse when I lived there too abelenkpe Oct 2014 #78

Everyone involved is a minor, so we may not know who did what, but Wella Oct 2014 #85

Here's some current information about the school: Highland Springs High School Wella Oct 2014 #66

He Won't Survive if he gets Convicted AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #165

You've seen or been in school fights jeepers Oct 2014 #58

Letters for Eric campaign + gofundme link eridani Oct 2014 #60

Color me a little skeptical sunnystarr Oct 2014 #65

It's legit. But you're right--I should have checked first eridani Oct 2014 #67

Thanks it's great to have that confirmed sunnystarr Oct 2014 #70

bullying is part of undergroundpanther Oct 2014 #71

SICK!!!!! what a sick country we have "developed" noiretextatique Oct 2014 #72

I didn't hit back when a bully wanted to beat me up after school, I instead told them to do it... moriah Oct 2014 #75

My cousin tried to be a bully Aerows Oct 2014 #143

I was lucky, during our suspensions a rumor got started.... moriah Oct 2014 #144

That's the way to do it Aerows Oct 2014 #145

That sounds like SOP for schools back in my day Scootaloo Oct 2014 #77

From the history, he threw the first punch. No, it isn't fair. flvegan Oct 2014 #88

Police and school board working together to torture this kid. These people are fuckers. We need whereisjustice Oct 2014 #89

The wingnuts run for school boards, along with privatization advocates. They need to be voted out. freshwest Oct 2014 #142

Stand up to the bigots, cuz they want gay people dead. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #90

Orwellian. blackspade Oct 2014 #91

So much for fighting back get the red out Oct 2014 #101

What every one seems to be ignoring here.. sendero Oct 2014 #106

You know what? get the red out Oct 2014 #108

NO I am not.. sendero Oct 2014 #109

I am very glad you are not blaming get the red out Oct 2014 #110

You'd really be surprised... sendero Oct 2014 #111

No offense intended but get the red out Oct 2014 #112

Well.. sendero Oct 2014 #113

Ignoring the gender issue a moment, fighting back depends on the type of bully. ieoeja Oct 2014 #121

Baggers in the mix somewhere w/o even reading this. lonestarnot Oct 2014 #117

My daughter was briefly bullied gwheezie Oct 2014 #124

And where have the bullied pipi_k Oct 2014 #125

USA, Bully Nation. Look at what happens to citizens, look at what the US does to other countries. RKP5637 Oct 2014 #126

Sad, but not at all surprising. Jerry442 Oct 2014 #128

Jury results, #20 - 4-3 hide Lancero Oct 2014 #141

Where did this happen. Jim Beard Oct 2014 #146

When someone is bullied defacto7 Oct 2014 #148

I know the feeling LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #150

I hate to say it but I laughed. I shouldn't but I did. F'em. nt JanMichael Oct 2014 #161

The principal and superintendent The Wizard Oct 2014 #159

I understand why he may have thrown the first punch. JanMichael Oct 2014 #160

How Many of the Kids Getting Bullied Have the Coordination for That? AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #164

Seems like things haven't changed in 40 years. . . Paula Sims Oct 2014 #162

While disgusting at least an "I don't care" let's you move on. JanMichael Oct 2014 #163

Update from GoFundMe eridani Nov 2014 #166