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OnyxCollie

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28. And of the the four authors of HAVA

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 12:35 PM

Oct 2014

one spent 30 months in prison for corruption and bribery (Bob Ney); one tried to run for President with the worst campaign ever, and is now a lobbyist for Hollywood with an agenda to censor the Internet (Friend of Countrywide Angelo Mozillo, Chris Dodd); one was indicted for money laundering charges in 2005, convicted years later, and recently had his conviction overturned, all without spending a day in prison (Tom "Dancing with the Stars" DeLay); and the last one has business and financial ties with ES&S (which at one point had a monopoly on vote counting machines, counting 80% of the country's votes), and is currently the Secretary of Defense, the Department which oversees the NSA, which collects every phone call, email, bank record, and Google search of every citizen in the US.

They flip votes with impunity, aided by those who refuse to believe they can.

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" Of all the gin joints..." (Black box election fraud just happened to me.) [View all] Fly by night Oct 2014 OP

PS: good to be here, if only for a minute Fly by night Oct 2014 #1

Where did the recommend button go. peace13 Oct 2014 #2

My best FB response to this (so far) Fly by night Oct 2014 #3

This Is How War Hawks Win billhicks76 Oct 2014 #57

Great to hear from you Bernie! n/t hootinholler Oct 2014 #4

Hot damn, Bernie! Are the changes going for or against a particular party issue? Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #5

Only a few cases (so far) Fly by night Oct 2014 #7

It will be interesting to see where this goes, if anywhere. They seem to cheat with impunity, Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #17

They seem to cheat with impunity< >never seems to be any consequences. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #47

And everytime you misdial your smart phone Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #6

Before you question my bonafides on this issue Fly by night Oct 2014 #8

Nice slam, Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #16

The reason I don't respond to your substance is ... Fly by night Oct 2014 #22

Because no one, so far, including you Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #29

Toadie, just because you refuse to acknowledge the evidence ... Fly by night Oct 2014 #36

And still you refuse to answer (or even point to anyone else who has answered) Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #38

Alrighty then. Fly by night Oct 2014 #41

Yes. It's just too complex and programmers are all too ethical. tecelote Oct 2014 #73

you aren't typing on the Iphone while driving a tractor are you! snooper2 Oct 2014 #42

Or do you really think Stonepounder Oct 2014 #13

Vote buying is the reason you cannot be provided with a printed copy of your vote. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #18

Please expound on vote buying being the reason teh Black Box Vote Fraud machines can't print your Vincardog Oct 2014 #50

I wasn't responding to a suggestion about printing a ballot to put in the box. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #63

So doing the right thing and giving me proof as to how I voted Pakid Oct 2014 #54

I dont mind E-machines quakerboy Oct 2014 #56

Well, thats fairly clearly not applicable. quakerboy Oct 2014 #55

Making a photocopy of a ballot before you mail it Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #61

Now you're just being silly quakerboy Oct 2014 #66

I have explained the reason you are not, ever, given a piece of paper Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #67

And I have given you evidence that you are absolutely incorrect in your assertions quakerboy Oct 2014 #69

No. You've described a way people could get around the system Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #71

It completely invalidates your argument quakerboy Oct 2014 #72

And of the the four authors of HAVA OnyxCollie Oct 2014 #28

I'm not saying they are stellar people - or that they wouldn't want to. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #30

There was a Princeton study done a few years ago OnyxCollie Oct 2014 #32

Think about how you would carry that out in real life. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #35

Don't know much about hacking, do you? Fawke Em Oct 2014 #46

Voting machines aren't networked. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #64

Electronic vote flipping has been a problem for the last decade at least. blackspade Oct 2014 #49

Not so much "electronic" as "computerized" cprise Oct 2014 #59

I have read brad blog numerous times. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #65

Well, you are entitled to your opinion. blackspade Oct 2014 #68

Calibration OldRedneck Oct 2014 #9

Thanks for sharing Fly by night Oct 2014 #10

Thank you for being a voice of reason. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #19

Thanks for voting no on that awful Amendment 1, Fly! Lars39 Oct 2014 #11

This issue is newsworthy here. Fly by night Oct 2014 #12

Be useful to hear from people whose vote flipped from "yes" to "no". Jerry442 Oct 2014 #14

Kick! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #15

Jeez Bernie, you have all the luck. progressoid Oct 2014 #20

I know. I mean, really. Fly by night Oct 2014 #23

Voters said Brainstormy Oct 2014 #21

No joke. Just a confusing process Fly by night Oct 2014 #24

In most cases, local election officials have the option Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #33

Thanks for the recs, folks. Now back to the woodpile. Fly by night Oct 2014 #25

How do insane GOP candidates get elected? This shit is how they get elected. valerief Oct 2014 #26

Amen Fly by night Oct 2014 #43

Computer based voting fraud is child's play for any professional programmer. nt ladjf Oct 2014 #27

Please explain it, in detail, then. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #31

I'm not going to start a seminar in how to rig a voting machine. I will offer this brief point. ladjf Oct 2014 #34

You still have not answered the primary question. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #37

Ms Toad - The best answer I can give to you to your questions is that you need to develop some ladjf Oct 2014 #39

I taught programming for nearly 10 years, Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #40

To me, the bottom line in all of this lies with the touchscreens. IMO they are a poor RKP5637 Oct 2014 #77

And Amen Fly by night Oct 2014 #44

Voting in Knox County tomorrow. Fawke Em Oct 2014 #45

Jeez, man, that sucks. blackspade Oct 2014 #48

More vote flipping... Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #51

The results of #1 need to be thrown out and recast. Laffy Kat Oct 2014 #52

You think the power balls not hacked??? grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #53

Democracy, HACKED. Too bad the DEMS don't want to do anything except "look forward," "compromise." blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #58

Deibold.......... Docross Oct 2014 #60

k & r ! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #62

I am just so worried... nikto Oct 2014 #70

Good morning, all y'all (minus one) Fly by night Oct 2014 #74

something about the tone of OTOH and this one that's similar nashville_brook Oct 2014 #78

Hey there back at ya'! Fly by night Oct 2014 #79

Where is Anonymous when this stuff is going on? loudsue Oct 2014 #75

Give 'em my number if you see 'em Fly by night Oct 2014 #80

BTW, it's nice to see you again, Fly. loudsue Oct 2014 #81

Interesting how the officials are so DUH as to not seen it as a problem. "Idiocracy" in full swing! RKP5637 Oct 2014 #76