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In reply to the discussion: The left needs to get real about domestic jihadists [View all]whatthehey
(3,660 posts)1) Every minute would be 525000 a year
2) The "drunk driving" stats are absurdly exaggerated even at the slightly more sane and official 10322. Why? Read on...
3) These are tallied by counting the "HBD" checkboxed in FARS reports. This includes drinking AND drug use
4) Even so, fully 50% of accidents with the HBD checked had no BAC tests performed at all. In the rest officers relied on other "indications", such as bottles (recycling? groceries?), signs of medication like pill containers, drug paraphernalia (irrelevant), or even just people undfer 50 on the road between midnight and 6am Saturday (shift or hospitality workers? Weekend travel?)
5) Even when BAC tests were performed, they include tests on pedestrians and cyclists killed too. So a guy walking home from the bar ploughed into by a skidding van containing a Temperance Baptist choir pushing them all over the median into a semi would be 15 "drunk driving" fatalities.
6) There is not even an attempt to assign causation. Even MADD thinks nigh 60% of all traffic fatalities have no alcohol content. Does whatever causes them somehow magically never strike drinkers?
7) There is not even an attempt to assign fault. A guy driving home after two beers stopped perfectly legally at a red light can be crushed by a teetotal OTR trucker running after a deadline on 20 hours with no sleep and be a "drunk driving" fatality
8) Tested BACs as low as 0.01, nowhere near impairment and achievable with a dose of cough syrup, are checked as HBD.
9) Of the people who WERE tested, and were actually driving, and were actually over the limit, 70% of them killed only themselves. But saying some idiot drunks wrap themselves around trees doesn't tug the emotional heartstrings like saying a far far smaller number of them hit other people does it?
10) This much inflated drunk driving menace risk should be compared to the huge number of "drunk driving" trips that MADD propaganda imply when they claim 7% of all trips and 14% on weekend evenings are impaired. The math comes out that statistically a genuinely drunk real driver could drive over the limit every single day for 3000 years before killing someone, and 70% of that time it would be him, making it 10000 years of daily drunk trips before he killed anyone else on average. Even self reported drunk driving trips (and when the perception of dui is akin to child molestation you can imagine how underreported that is) come out to be just short of 100 years daily per other fatality. And since we charge 1.4 million drivers with dui annually, the idea that there are only 112mm annual drunk trips is loony tunes - that would mean a driver has a greater than 1% chance of being arrested driving drunk. I'm not even sure I SEE a cop that frequently when I'm driving, let alone get pulled over (FWIW as I'm sure the accusations will fly I have been pulled over exactly 3 times in 35 years, and not so much as a single test for dui).
I doubt any jihadist bent on mayhem would need 10000 years worth of daily tries before causing a death. Luckily there are a lot fewer of them here.