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samsingh

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50. the gun lovers have no interest in facts

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:13 PM

Oct 2014

only cherry picking to suit their narrative.

of course the methodology is wrong as mother jones shows how many people are getting killed.

btw - it's not relevant that the number of deaths are going up or down to me. The fact is that the cumulative gun deaths are going up. That stat matters. The other stats are intended to appease whatever little guilty conscience a gun lover might have (although very small).

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Mother Jones: Yes, Mass Shootings Are Occurring More Often [View all] villager Oct 2014 OP

Interesting trend. Maedhros Oct 2014 #1

The "ambient rage" effect from bullying crypto-fascists, when a mere center/right Dem occupies... villager Oct 2014 #2

I think you just may be on to something there. hifiguy Oct 2014 #6

That's what I was thinking. Maedhros Oct 2014 #10

Only interesting if you fabricate some relationship upaloopa Oct 2014 #3

I've witnessed increasing right wing rage whenever Democratic Presidents get elected. Maedhros Oct 2014 #9

You could come up with a hundred things that upaloopa Oct 2014 #59

Yes, I know. Maedhros Oct 2014 #66

More propaganda using cherry picked data to support a desired outcome. Should be in a gun group. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #4

Yes, Skp, in this matter, only your NRA pals, Fox news, etc. are "reliable" villager Oct 2014 #5

Talk about give it a rest. I didn't post a POS biased bullshit propaganda piece in GD. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #13

And I have posted some corrections to your "corrections" villager Oct 2014 #22

I like how Professor James Allen Fox hfojvt Oct 2014 #25

I had that same thought. Not unlike the poor Professor Bogus. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #26

No, Fox news is Fox news. Just pointing out the sources that dismiss studies from Harvard, etc. villager Oct 2014 #30

"Good 'nuff for government work." Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #48

"3 or more" used to be "4 or more." Mass shooting goal post move. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #28

I have done this, play with different data sets, then select the one that makes your point. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #49

the gun lovers have no interest in facts samsingh Oct 2014 #50

What is the objective and specific reason Mother Jones is an invalid source? LanternWaste Oct 2014 #7

A pattern of using poorly designed studies to make a point, poor history of issuing corrections. nt NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #8

"Fox claims based on flawed research" villager Oct 2014 #16

Oh, My! Huffington Post!!! ROFL!!! NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #18

As opposed to your year-old articles from USA Today!? villager Oct 2014 #20

December 3, 2013 is invalid???? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #23

you're pretending one, lone criminologist is infallible and the FBI, Harvard, Mother Jones, et al, villager Oct 2014 #24

From what I can see Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #31

So? They didn't do the research on which they were reporting, people at Harvard did. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #27

Exactly villager Oct 2014 #29

What should you do now? Well if I were a person that was in love with my guns A Simple Game Oct 2014 #62

Flip-flopper Fox. valerief Oct 2014 #43

According to him, then, the "mere" murder of one other student (so far) today villager Oct 2014 #53

Or two or three murders valerief Oct 2014 #63

"Propaganda" in support of what? Universal background checks and licensing/registration? nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #64

USA TODAY research reveals flaws in mass-killing data: NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #11

More errors in the study found by USA Today. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #12

Year-old critiques - -which themselves have been critiqued: villager Oct 2014 #17

Public Health Vs. Criminology One_Life_To_Give Oct 2014 #14

Oh, shoot, that NRA lovin' NY Magazine says the numbers and stories are misleading, too! NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #15

Gungeoneers will clutch their gunz closely this weekend. Hoyt Oct 2014 #19

Hey, they're angry after every mass shooting too -- only not at the shooting! villager Oct 2014 #21

Listening to Signorile on XM, gun folk calling in who take their concealed weapon with them randys1 Oct 2014 #32

The gun fetishists are a mental illness unto themselves... villager Oct 2014 #36

I don't know how they sleep at night valerief Oct 2014 #44

Yep, but if we cant how can India or China etc? randys1 Oct 2014 #45

Actually, you got something right... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #35

Hey, you actually got something right too! villager Oct 2014 #37

You gonna be using targets that resemble humans again? Have fun blasting away. Hoyt Oct 2014 #38

Unlike some here, we hope to hit paper & clay... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #40

2nd Amendment calls for all guns to be removed to a well regulated militia randys1 Oct 2014 #46

No it doesn't hack89 Oct 2014 #52

Seems like plain English to me... randys1 Oct 2014 #56

You mean our party platform hack89 Oct 2014 #57

What would be nice is if you put your guns away, and discussed how your "hobby" is hurting society. Hoyt Oct 2014 #47

We can do it over a beer or two ... oh wait a second. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #54

I know, gungeoneers prefer to shoot than worry about how your bad habit affects others. Hoyt Oct 2014 #55

No. I just know what kills young people where I live. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #58

Hate is occurring more often. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #33

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Even MJ noted around 60 mass shootings over a decades' long period... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #39

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What were you going on about yesterday about Turkey and HOA? uppityperson Oct 2014 #42

I'll guess: Home Owners Associations frown upon deep frying Turkeys on the premises? NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #51

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Horses on asteroids? greatauntoftriplets Oct 2014 #67

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Population Old Codger Oct 2014 #61

The current homicide rate is actually about half what it was 20-25 years ago. nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #65

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