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Tonight my own daughter broke my heart. On Facebook she announced that she is not voting. [View all] ancianita Oct 2014 OP

who are her candidates ? JI7 Oct 2014 #1

Good point! It's an angle I hadn't thought of in spite of my past statements to that effect here ancianita Oct 2014 #13

Where do you live? There are a lot of areas that are neck and neck and need her vote. I do not for jwirr Oct 2014 #79

Good grief - your daughter broke your heart by not voting? Yupster Oct 2014 #93

Sensitivity demwing Oct 2014 #190

If her problem is what she says it is, then she should vote for a third party candidate. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #2

+1 liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #6

Or Just Write it IN!.. Just Vote for all the Women and Blacks who got the Right to Vote for Us.. Cha Oct 2014 #10

I like that approach, too. Write in who you think should have been running. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #11

Precisely.. been thinking about this a lot.. Cha Oct 2014 #24

how is that any better? Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #62

Well, where there might not be a third party candidate, for example. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #89

It's not wasted time if it reminds them that numbers matter. JHB Oct 2014 #91

Thank you. I'll be sure to do just that. ancianita Oct 2014 #14

+++ 1,0000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #106

It is a sad state of affairs when you must advise "if you can't voter FOR someone, you can vote uppityperson Oct 2014 #3

I See That A Lot Here ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #61

I helped get Reagan in by voting for John Anderson back when I was an idealistic youth voter uppityperson Oct 2014 #130

even if sabbat hunter Oct 2014 #151

Finding a way to get money out of politics could be just as big as fighting for the right to vote. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #4

Wait, 35 is "disengaged youth"??? LeftyMom Oct 2014 #5

Heh heh! Yeah. Guess I'm that old. ancianita Oct 2014 #15

I am in my late thirties and have become disillusioned as well. I wonder if the mid to late thirties liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #22

I'm in my 20s redruddyred Oct 2014 #46

Reap what you sow taught_me_patience Oct 2014 #7

Your response is heartfelt, ancianita..I know how this must be for you. If either of my kids would Cha Oct 2014 #8

Your support is much appreciated, Cha. Man, I know I'm tired when I forget to bring THAT one up! ancianita Oct 2014 #16

Manana! Cha Oct 2014 #25

supreme court. as a woman, for all the daughters, the supreme court. it is that simple for me. seabeyond Oct 2014 #9

Sea, I can't believe I forgot to bring that up. I'll get back to her on this immediately. ancianita Oct 2014 #17

she made the declaration. and she probably knows where you sit, lol. like starting an OP seabeyond Oct 2014 #20

Man, I don't know...I never thought our relationship would come to be like this... ancianita Oct 2014 #27

Because of this one post? Dorian Gray Oct 2014 #63

Tell her that she is going to have to live by the rules they make. She can help put the ones shraby Oct 2014 #12

I will. And thanks. ancianita Oct 2014 #18

she is the same age i am and that is not "the youth" vote JI7 Oct 2014 #19

You're right. She's an X-er. ancianita Oct 2014 #28

Bush drove me over the edge. Kath1 Oct 2014 #30

Bush drove me to always vote Democrat no matter what. DCBob Oct 2014 #180

I'd ask her if she really cares about things like choice, peace and marriage equality. Kath1 Oct 2014 #21

Right? I just thought we were past all that stuff. Her reasoning seems decidedly too shallow ancianita Oct 2014 #26

Being a single mom made me even MORE engaged. Kath1 Oct 2014 #29

Me, too! I was her single mom, so she saw my politics and knew the issues as I knew them. ancianita Oct 2014 #31

None of us are immune to the the politics of this country. Kath1 Oct 2014 #36

... ancianita Oct 2014 #175

peace? Doctor_J Oct 2014 #153

`;(..... TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #23

We forget how hard those women fought for the vote.... riversedge Oct 2014 #54

Ancianita needs to send this to her daughter! n/t ReRe Oct 2014 #55

I posted it! ancianita Oct 2014 #177

History tells a story! ;-) n/t ReRe Oct 2014 #186

Tell her "Way to opt out of which party picks the Supreme Court which will determine HER--not your - MADem Oct 2014 #32

Seriously, what parent is ever sure. Okay, here's an updated response to her friends' FB comments. ancianita Oct 2014 #33

Don't let it get to you...there's no point in getting stressed. MADem Oct 2014 #47

Haha. Thanks! Love it! ancianita Oct 2014 #176

Youth isn't disengaged, they just don't like voting for the lesser of two evils davidn3600 Oct 2014 #34

+1 liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #35

They are not wrong. But I'm so tired right now, all that comes to mind is my favorite movie joke: ancianita Oct 2014 #37

They are not wrong... BUT.... Adrahil Oct 2014 #78

Staying at home isn't the solution and won't change anything for the better, only the worse. CrispyQ Oct 2014 #92

+1 lunasun Oct 2014 #134

I felt that way my first election but never considered not voting. Once in my life I did not vote, a uppityperson Oct 2014 #128

The lesser of two evils, is still evil - Jerry Garcia grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #139

Yeah both Dems and Republicans want mandatory Vaginal Probes emulatorloo Oct 2014 #146

They both forgive torture - is that evil? grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #148

Awesome non sequitur emulatorloo Oct 2014 #155

I agree. I also understand how we alienate voters by standing up for evils such as torture. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #168

i find people who talk about lesser of 2 evils in politics to view politics as if it's religion JI7 Oct 2014 #143

I voted today. Too bad I'm in freakin' Idaho and as far as I know, none brewens Oct 2014 #38

One of my children doesn't vote Not a Fan Oct 2014 #39

Thanks. I probably won't give up on her, either. If this is helpful and seems to support this view. ancianita Oct 2014 #99

I lost a sister to that line of thinking loyalsister Oct 2014 #40

I understand the passion involved but is it freedom if you are coerced or forced into it? liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #41

Who is talking about forcing anyone? loyalsister Oct 2014 #45

Well.... Your post is a wholE lotta WTF Adrahil Oct 2014 #84

Right?? If you're talking about my OP. Sorry this response seems wrongly placed. ancianita Oct 2014 #174

yes. barbtries Oct 2014 #42

I'll bet the older boys are single without children, too. LuvLoogie Oct 2014 #73

I agree with your daughter 100% MyNameGoesHere Oct 2014 #43

Pigs, wings, etc. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #57

The teabaggers would all still vote. PassingFair Oct 2014 #81

Dope, you're smoking it. Adrahil Oct 2014 #82

Not a necessary response about the dope. MyNameGoesHere Oct 2014 #147

Sorry I hurt your feelings. Adrahil Oct 2014 #159

Feelingd hurt? No MyNameGoesHere Oct 2014 #187

why would that be more powerful than a large vote total going to other people? JHB Oct 2014 #108

No. The message would be "Hey thanks for handing over the government. NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #161

My daughter is the same way ... DrBulldog Oct 2014 #44

I think she is wrong, and that it is sad that too many LeftishBrit Oct 2014 #48

Casting a ballot for a regressive is also very regressive Scootaloo Oct 2014 #49

Just ask her what the alternative is... world wide wally Oct 2014 #50

That's been my MO. Demanding answers doesn't work with her ancianita Oct 2014 #102

Two of my sons have made the decision not to vote. defacto7 Oct 2014 #51

She's surrendering to the very forces she's complaining about. Good thing she wants to help them. nt TeamPooka Oct 2014 #52

Great way of putting it! treestar Oct 2014 #70

Thank you. It's just sad. nt TeamPooka Oct 2014 #127

So sorry, ancianita. How sad that alternative media has taken another for a ride. freshwest Oct 2014 #53

Exactly my sentiments. But she's been swayed back to voting third party by her FB friends, ancianita Oct 2014 #101

A woman who can't discern the difference between Parties regarding women's issues? Oy. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #56

Somone on DU... ReRe Oct 2014 #58

Thank you, ReRe! ancianita Oct 2014 #103

TELL HER IT IS VERY SIMPLE: Quitting is no option in life. If you don't vote, don't complain.EVER. RBInMaine Oct 2014 #59

It is her life and her choice and she is an adult Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #60

What path is that? arcane1 Oct 2014 #145

I'm sad for you too coldean Oct 2014 #64

and one other thing to bring up coldean Oct 2014 #65

I like this. I'm going to use this. ancianita Oct 2014 #104

I don't think the woman cares about what is in their heart of hearts but rather what they actually TheKentuckian Oct 2014 #191

What I tell people that announce they don't see the point in voting is Live and Learn Oct 2014 #66

Why should you be surprised? I see that opinion expressed here almost daily. brooklynite Oct 2014 #67

Because everything I've done, from my job to my personal interests, has, in some way, been ancianita Oct 2014 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Drayden Oct 2014 #118

Nah, she is making her own decision. wildeyed Oct 2014 #68

It's about harm reduction, and it sucks that that's what it's about, BUT stillwaiting Oct 2014 #69

So she's refusing to do anything until someone hands her better options? randome Oct 2014 #71

Exactly. It's about the big long term consequences of isolated acts taken collectively. ancianita Oct 2014 #109

Very difficult to address. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #72

Perhaps you need to reassess your priorities jehop61 Oct 2014 #74

You're right. Making effort and progress on all that. . ancianita Oct 2014 #112

Why would this surprise anyone? 99Forever Oct 2014 #75

Tell her to vote anyways tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #76

Tell her this: it DOES make a difference. Adrahil Oct 2014 #77

Why isn't she voting for herself? She DOES have a choice. JHB Oct 2014 #80

I SO love this post. NT Adrahil Oct 2014 #83

Exactly what the 1%ers want rock Oct 2014 #85

Someone on DU posted this & I posted it on my FB page. Maybe you should too? CrispyQ Oct 2014 #86

I love that! nt Live and Learn Oct 2014 #88

Inform her that her vote will count triple in the midterm election. Live and Learn Oct 2014 #87

So she wants to wait around until better alternatives magically appear? SheilaT Oct 2014 #90

One can understand her views, because essentially that is what things have become. There was always still_one Oct 2014 #94

She one step ahead of republican voters. A positive, great start! maced666 Oct 2014 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #96

This will be my daughter's first azmom Oct 2014 #97

One of my friends said something similar recently A Little Weird Oct 2014 #98

My answers to your questions LWolf Oct 2014 #100

I know. And I've even tempered some solicited advice at times, knowing that her path is hers, ancianita Oct 2014 #111

Sometimes LWolf Oct 2014 #116

+100000 Good answers. woo me with science Oct 2014 #173

When a critical mass gets there, LWolf Oct 2014 #185

i saw this on fb. put it on your wall. make your own statement seabeyond Oct 2014 #107

Thanks! I've got a profile pic about 'good people' voting in bad politicians by not voting, too. ancianita Oct 2014 #110

My son, and alot of his FB friends forthemiddle Oct 2014 #113

Thanks for this! Because the more I understand how youth think, the more I'm able to ancianita Oct 2014 #114

I'd say 1) there are usually local measures to vote for, even if you don't care for the 'parties', Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #115

A million thanks to you all! I feel so much better, can collect my thoughts better and ancianita Oct 2014 #117

Good news coldean Oct 2014 #119

My old mother told me similar, and that she decided who to vote for based on 1 issue. There are too uppityperson Oct 2014 #135

This message might be useful. LiberalFighter Oct 2014 #120

Exactly right. GoCubsGo Oct 2014 #122

She can't stand memes. I've posted it, though. Thank you. ancianita Oct 2014 #126

Sadly I feel she has a great point. Glassunion Oct 2014 #121

I'm going to try and be a voice of reason Marrah_G Oct 2014 #123

Thank you. I realize all that you say, and her decision hit me at a weak moment. Best to look ancianita Oct 2014 #125

Tell her that to not vote is Not Rebellion ~ It is Surrender! nt eowyn_of_rohan Oct 2014 #124

Indeed it is. Hugin Oct 2014 #133

OMG !! Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #129

Have you explained to her that her not voting gives the worst two votes? Hugin Oct 2014 #131

Amen! I said he midterm votes count waay more than votes in the general. Make them steal ancianita Oct 2014 #140

It's been fueled by RW media tactics targeting the idealists blm Oct 2014 #132

If you get pissed of that the streets are dirty, you shouldn't say that trash cans are useless and Chathamization Oct 2014 #136

Best outcome, teach her how to look up campaign contributions and support Common Cause. mahina Oct 2014 #137

I knew the new war would be the death knell for 2014:( grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #138

I don't generally find label based arguments to be compelling. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #141

I appreciate the invitational mode of discussing idea, and we've got time for me to try that. ancianita Oct 2014 #142

Here's a graphic you might consider posting to her timeline . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #144

Very good! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #149

... Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2014 #150

The right wing,like the Birchers and Koch Bros have been pushing "They are all the same" meme. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #152

Thanks, greatlaurel. This is an idea I'm sure she can appreciate. I'll run it by her. ancianita Oct 2014 #154

So glad you liked the idea! greatlaurel Oct 2014 #160

Nope ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #156

Wouldn't be the first adult reality she's learned the hard way, either. She thinks that by owning ancianita Oct 2014 #158

she's figured things out it seems Doctor_J Oct 2014 #157

Hope she's not in TN Tsiyu Oct 2014 #162

Not TN; just outside Chicago, and I can see that her FB friends are convincing her. Thanks! ancianita Oct 2014 #166

I hope she doesn't face an unwanted pregnancy in a state run by republicans. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #163

Please advise her to look at the facts ... sunnystarr Oct 2014 #164

Could be worse, my daughter votes republican now marlakay Oct 2014 #165

Sorry for this. But at least she votes. People often adapt to the political environment they're in. ancianita Oct 2014 #167

Thanks for understanding marlakay Oct 2014 #172

Your daughter didn't break your heart. mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2014 #169

Thank you. Maybe she didn't break it, but she sure hurt it. It felt like it was punched. And your ancianita Oct 2014 #170

When your daughter says how unfair something is... mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2014 #171

Well, that's going to happen after decades of Third Wayers selling us out. Marr Oct 2014 #178

Third Way's a dot org, apparently. ancianita Oct 2014 #181

Challenge her to do something else if she feels voting doesn't work for her... Become a PCP cascadiance Oct 2014 #179

What's a PCP, again? All that comes to mind are a drug or a primary care physician. lol ancianita Oct 2014 #182

I am voting and I will DRIVE you to the polls HockeyMom Oct 2014 #183

Happy it worked for you. I did that once, but now if I did that she'd laugh me out of her driveway. ancianita Oct 2014 #184

I'm slowly getting to be of the same mind, unfortunately. AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #188

My son told me that he would not vote demwing Oct 2014 #189