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42. jury results

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:04 PM

Oct 2014

On Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:43 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

no, both sides dont have legitimate racial arguments, there is no systematic oppression
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5713676

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post gets way too personal against a long time DUer simply expressing a common opinion. This is so over the top and will likely discourage any real discussion.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:57 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm looking for the "way too personal" part and not seeing it. I really wish alerters would be more specific about the parts they find offensive or over the top.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Over the top? Puh-lease!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: She's 100% correct.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: it seems kind of odd for someone who is asking for a HIDE to worry that the alerted post will "likely discourage discussion". Just sayin'
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's not a contest, there is no good in suggesting that the member is a racist. That, itself, is almost as bad as being a racist so please refrain from attacks.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Really silly alert. I so wish alerters names were published.

I was juror #5.

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We HAVE to TALK about racism and police brutality [View all] marym625 Oct 2014 OP

The answer is quite simple. Mercy_Queen Oct 2014 #1

I agree with that marym625 Oct 2014 #3

It's a good start Mercy_Queen Oct 2014 #4

I'm sorry-- YarnAddict Oct 2014 #10

No please do marym625 Oct 2014 #15

I HATE auto-correct!!!! n/t YarnAddict Oct 2014 #25

LOL Me TOO marym625 Oct 2014 #31

I don't think it will matter much. Two words: Rodney King. The justice system is kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #67

I agree that we can't know marym625 Oct 2014 #76

I hear the "it's only a few cops" argument often. JTFrog Oct 2014 #5

Again, transparency. Mercy_Queen Oct 2014 #9

Yeah, that's a HUGE problem marym625 Oct 2014 #17

I personally am sick of hearing that particular line used. I'll believe there are good cops KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #41

It is a really disgusting way to address a serious problem marym625 Oct 2014 #103

As always, specific examples help. To wit, who here knows how many LAPD officers KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #105

copologist math LOVE IT. n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #106

I don't know if libodem Oct 2014 #2

Then we talk about how it sounds or is racist marym625 Oct 2014 #8

Where do we start? Why, with a solid definition of terms. Here's how I define KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #44

well thought out good comment marym625 Oct 2014 #46

Few dispute the need for some sort of constabulary force, barring evolution of a fully communist KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #50

I have been watching a great deal of the live streams marym625 Oct 2014 #54

Well, we now know from the fabricated quotes and mis-quotes the St. Louis Post-Dispatch KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #56

I don't know it marym625 Oct 2014 #62

"Relationship" can mean so many things in this context. At a bare minimum, it's probably KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #64

Since we're talking philosophy and defining things... ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #79

Your questions are valid, but I don't want to derail Mary's thread unduly with KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #84

Go ahead. derail. marym625 Oct 2014 #91

This morning I said to my (white) mom XemaSab Oct 2014 #60

Good point marym625 Oct 2014 #63

Perhaps white people should stop caring how they're labeled. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #82

Sorry, probably stupid question marym625 Oct 2014 #92

I am saying ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #107

I agree marym625 Oct 2014 #111

Why use the label at all? ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #120

I'm not advocating for it to be used marym625 Oct 2014 #121

I think that is good advice. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #122

Unfortunately. marym625 Oct 2014 #123

I said the same thing to my mom. bravenak Oct 2014 #85

Kickin' Faux pas Oct 2014 #6

Thank you! marym625 Oct 2014 #21

When you say we need to talk, YarnAddict Oct 2014 #7

no, both sides dont have legitimate racial arguments, there is no systematic oppression La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #11

Alerted, I voted to leave. However, your implication at the end of reply is not helpful. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #14

Do you really believe that? marym625 Oct 2014 #22

Examples include Hispanics and folks from the Middle East, and Native Americans NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #33

Thank you marym625 Oct 2014 #36

I would say there is very much institutinalized, legally empowered, government enforced bias Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #71

Very true marym625 Oct 2014 #75

What institutionalized racism is there against whites? La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #26

Where did I say that there was? Oh, that's right, I didn't say that. nt NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #34

I think that's what was assumed marym625 Oct 2014 #37

you said far more institutionalized which implies that there is some systematic oppression of whites La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #39

Not what I meant but there probably is bias against elderly and disabled white folks. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #45

to say that it is institutionalized is one thing hfojvt Oct 2014 #87

Where do you get if you walk away? marym625 Oct 2014 #94

you are the one saying we MUST havea discussion hfojvt Oct 2014 #117

I didn't attack marym625 Oct 2014 #118

wrong part of thread marym625 Oct 2014 #119

What do you think can be done about systematic oppression? YarnAddict Oct 2014 #16

I actually had a discussion about this with one of the Leaders in St Louis today marym625 Oct 2014 #27

passing laws is not the same as efforts to eliminate. most of the CRA of 1964 in term of employment La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #40

I find the housing issue very interesting and somewhat intractable. branford Oct 2014 #48

Mostly only white people see that as an issue, since black folks really don't need them. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #58

A "goal" has an "attaboy" attached if you achieve it YarnAddict Oct 2014 #49

a lot of them have been solved? marym625 Oct 2014 #96

Well said! n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #95

Thank you marym625 Oct 2014 #18

+1 gollygee Oct 2014 #20

Nice reply. Just as predicted in the OP YarnAddict Oct 2014 #35

the reason this leads to the end of discussion, is because some whites will La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #38

Well, what is my role? YarnAddict Oct 2014 #59

Yes there is something you can do about it marym625 Oct 2014 #98

Why do you think there is a PERCEPTION among white people XemaSab Oct 2014 #70

I am sorry marym625 Oct 2014 #100

Please take a look at what you're saying marym625 Oct 2014 #43

jury results grasswire Oct 2014 #42

Thanks for posting that marym625 Oct 2014 #47

Thank you YarnAddict Oct 2014 #52

Hmm . . . Juror #6 gollygee Oct 2014 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #74

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #78

Is this racist? Why or why not? XemaSab Oct 2014 #80

Holy shit! marym625 Oct 2014 #99

it's offensive and bigoted, but not an example of systemic oppression JI7 Oct 2014 #110

So it's not racist? XemaSab Oct 2014 #116

if by racist you mean offensive, hateful JI7 Oct 2014 #124

So "racism" to you only means systematic oppression? XemaSab Oct 2014 #126

I mean actually discuss marym625 Oct 2014 #13

As I stated in my YarnAddict Oct 2014 #24

Yes, obviously involvement in a child's education is extremely important marym625 Oct 2014 #30

Check out colorofchange.org wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #12

Which letter is this? marym625 Oct 2014 #19

The link is to a petition ... the petition is in the form of a letter. wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #23

Yes, I'm sorry marym625 Oct 2014 #28

Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #29

Thank you NYC_SKP n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #32

Ok, I'm going to just say something marym625 Oct 2014 #51

Thank you for posting this.... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #53

Thank you! marym625 Oct 2014 #55

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #57

Just out of curiosity, how does 'reverse discrimination in the form of affirmative action' KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #61

Assuming this person is genuine, he's got a lot to learn. See my reply to him. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #66

The language seemed stilted and gawky enough ("revolving problem") that I was willing to give him KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #68

Affirmative Action does have its issues, that is true. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #65

I am not an expert in this area. I do wonder, though, whether the primary beneficiaries of KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #69

Ok Ill be brief GummyBearz Oct 2014 #72

I am with you there GummyBearz marym625 Oct 2014 #77

Two separate questions posed. 1. Police brutality/institutionalized aggression. 2. Racism. 20score Oct 2014 #73

I understand you separating the issues marym625 Oct 2014 #81

Please see post #89 n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #90

Police brutality and for profit prisons are a serious problem regardless of race. Initech Oct 2014 #83

Please, don't hold back :) marym625 Oct 2014 #88

It's not just race. It's fear of all "others." And the religion of guns. DirkGently Oct 2014 #86

Well said marym625 Oct 2014 #89

Some statistics to buttress your eloquently argued points: 1% of the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #93

K&R especially for that first video. Even black kids know the "I don't see color" and "my best Number23 Oct 2014 #97

That some of best friends bs marym625 Oct 2014 #101

Good post! k+r ..nt TeeYiYi Oct 2014 #102

Thanks TYY! n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #104

kick Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #108

Thanks! marym625 Oct 2014 #112

Thank you for this post, Mary. Live and Learn Oct 2014 #109

so true marym625 Oct 2014 #114

Unmasking Race and Privilege Seminarian Oct 2014 #113

completely agree. marym625 Oct 2014 #115

Police brutality and racism rolled into one - maced666 Oct 2014 #125

I actually have to run so I will check you link later marym625 Oct 2014 #127

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #128

seems to me that you have the problem. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2014 #129

It seems all of your posts are in support of the Ferguson police Live and Learn Oct 2014 #130

There's so much wrong with what you just said marym625 Oct 2014 #132