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In reply to the discussion: Are we ever going to get tired enough of school shootings that we actually do something about them? [View all]calimary
(90,986 posts)at that gun range where the little girl blew away that war veteran who was assisting her with a machine gun she had no business being near, or touching, much less being allowed to shoot.
I realize that gun enthusiasts will never concede this. There's always some reason why people who want to curtail or regulate guns are wrong or ill-informed or whatever the excuse is on this particular day. ALWAYS some reason why we're stuck living by YOUR idea of what's fair and reasonable. Well, I WON'T. Nothing you said in the post above changes anything, or the results that happened and were factual and horrible and murderous and completely unnecessary - as in DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN. No excuse you gave, no hairs you split, no technicalities you mentioned. And I'm also sure that she probably thought there was no problem and no danger and, if her arsenal was not properly stored or secured by the book, well, why bother, then? There's always that canard that people fall back upon - "NUTHIN'S GUNNA HAPPEN..." Nothing to see here. Move along. She had the right. It wasn't a whole buncha guns. Oh you have the label wrong. Oh you're not describing it correctly. There's always a reason, isn't there? There's ALWAYS an excuse, isn't there? There's ALWAYS a loophole, isn't there! There's ALWAYS a justification as to why we can't do anything about it. We can't even be allowed to ATTEMPT to do anything about it.
The FACT is that all this excuse-making and hair-splitting and fine-debate-pointing has not helped. All the outrage and faithful genuflecting to the precious Second Amendment and rationalizing about how this won't work so we can't try it or that won't work so we can't go there either - and things stay as they are - give us 87 school shootings since Sandy Hook. EIGHTY-SEVEN. Letting it ride as it is now, because heaven forbid we look at changing the Second Amendment or tightening the regulations, how's that worked out so far? We haven't done anything about it. And it therefore has been allowed to continue. EIGHTY-SEVEN TIMES since two Decembers ago. How 'bout we change it up a little and TRY to do something about it, for a change? NOT doing anything - not being able to do anything - how's that worked out so far?
The OTHER FACT is, dear friend, when you add guns into the mix - the changes are far greater that there will be death, injury, carnage, wreckage, post-traumatic stress, and further descent into total anarchy. What if "all those guns" were "all those knives," maybe? You would not have had the wholesale carnage. Maybe this kid might have gotten close enough to slash another student or two, but certainly not TWENTY. The carnage would be far more contained and minimized, and instead of 20 little coffins there might have been one or two. And even that one or two is one or two too many. When you add guns into the mix, you WILL eventually have trouble. There WILL eventually be "accidents" or "didn't mean to's" or "well, she had 'em legally's" or some such. And how has that worked out for you? Well, maybe it hasn't been hard or tragic or horrifying for you personally. But I would ask the parents of Sandy Hook, and Columbine, and every other school shooting up to and including this one (what is it? Number 87 now, just since Sandy Hook - which isn't even two full years behind us?) the same question.
I do not share your defense of guns. Or gun ownership. Or gun usage. It DOES NOT make me feel any safer. It DOES NOT make me feel more patriotic or more in touch with the Founders or the Constitution or any of that. And I don't see a way clear that it ever will make me feel safer, knowing there are guns around me. That's just me.
And every time we have ANOTHER ONE OF THESE, my anti-gun stance solidifies just that much more.