Are we ever going to get tired enough of school shootings that we actually do something about them?

[ManiacJoe]

168. You really need to take a deep breath and think about what you are trying to say.

I'm sure they stored all those nice harmless guns properly and safely at that gun range where the little girl blew away that war veteran who was assisting her with a machine gun she had no business being near, or touching, much less being allowed to shoot.

Of course not. The girl was actively shooting the gun at the targets on the gun range. But you already know that.

There's always some reason why people who want to curtail or regulate guns are wrong or ill-informed or whatever the excuse is on this particular day.

Yes, usually -- but not always -- there is a reason. The reason for most folks is ignorance of the subject matter; that is relatively easy to fix as long as the person is willing to learn. For other folks the reason is purposeful misinformation; the truth and facts do not work well for their agenda.

Nothing you said in the post above changes anything, or the results that happened and were factual and horrible and murderous and completely unnecessary - as in DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN. No excuse you gave, no hairs you split, no technicalities you mentioned.

Very true. Nothing I said changes the facts. All I did was correct your misconceptions so that you now know the facts and can have a knowledgeable conversation. I gave no excuses. You entered a technical discussion you did not understand. You have been corrected in your misuse of the technical terms. The socially acceptable response from you should have been a simple "Thank you."

And I'm also sure that she probably thought there was no problem and no danger and, if her arsenal was not properly stored or secured by the book, well, why bother, then? There's always that canard that people fall back upon - "NUTHIN'S GUNNA HAPPEN..."

And that attitude is the way bad things happen. She knew there was a large problem with her child. She chose not to do the simple and necessary steps to prevent such a tragedy. She gets no sympathy or forgiveness from me. Hopefully she gets none from you.

It wasn't a whole buncha guns. Oh you have the label wrong. Oh you're not describing it correctly.

Proper terminology is important for intelligent discussions. You are not required to use the labels and tags; but if you misuse them, do expect to get called on it. If you don't know the proper labels and tags, you can easily use the long descriptions instead, which is perfectly fine. If you have questions, please ask. There are lots of knowledgeable folks here who are happy to help you.

There's always a reason, isn't there? There's ALWAYS an excuse, isn't there? There's ALWAYS a loophole, isn't there! There's ALWAYS a justification as to why we can't do anything about it. We can't even be allowed to ATTEMPT to do anything about it.

There are lots of reasons that many of the attempts to do "something" fail, most of them are technical in nature. I know of no reason or excuse not to try; there just need to be intelligence backing the try.