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HereSince1628

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39. Remember the American and British invasion of Russia? The Russians do

Sun Oct 26, 2014, 05:42 PM

Oct 2014

The Russians I met have a perspective on their exposure to invasions from east and west that by and large Americans wouldn't recognize.

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Putin is starting to lose it, boxed in by a falling Ruble and falling Oil prices. Lashes out at US.. [View all] stevenleser Oct 2014 OP

It's always a good strategy to crap on the heads MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #1

There's a much better article in the Guardian CJCRANE Oct 2014 #2

It seems it is Putin that has gone off on a tangent...not Obama davidn3600 Oct 2014 #3

Very insightful. MinneapolisMatt Oct 2014 #4

It all started about two years ago. Something changed, before even Ukraine. stevenleser Oct 2014 #5

You're right there. But it was the American and Western media that changed. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #10

No, it was the Russian media that changed. All of us that go/went on RT and VoR noted it at the time stevenleser Oct 2014 #14

Well, it seems subjective because I noticed a strong anti-Russian turn CJCRANE Oct 2014 #16

While our media certainly has a bias... joeybee12 Oct 2014 #20

Putin took over the Russian media--he shut down the "opposition" outlet and pulled it all in MADem Oct 2014 #56

I have a friend who was a voice of Russia employee AndreaCG Oct 2014 #68

Guardian artcle is a better journalistic piece IMO mazzarro Oct 2014 #8

+1 Guardian > American Pablum nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #9

Putin came up in the KGB--he LIKED the idea of the USSR and he wants it back again. MADem Oct 2014 #54

During his first term, PBO was dealing with Medvedev, although Putin was behind the curtain. amandabeech Oct 2014 #23

Or just outright mental illness AndreaCG Oct 2014 #70

Then maybe you could provide said article.. thank you, CJCRANE. Cha Oct 2014 #40

I'm not sure that's a good idea. I wouldn't want to be known as a... CJCRANE Oct 2014 #45

I already know what I think about the homophobic/internet-journalist suppressing dictator Putin. Cha Oct 2014 #48

It's about foreign policy. Do you agree with our support of religious fundamentalists? CJCRANE Oct 2014 #50

If Putin is losing it and still has picked up Crimea, I'd sure hate to see what would happen KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #6

Nope, also losing against the Euro. The agreements with the PRC wont help if oil is low. Also... stevenleser Oct 2014 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #35

Russia & India Report: "Forecast for 2014-17 downgraded by Russian Economic Ministry" Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #12

"The ministry believes that oil prices will reach $90�95 per barrel and stabilize there. " NickB79 Oct 2014 #33

This will be felt by Russia, Iran, Venezuela & Saudi Arabia the most. They've got nothing else. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #37

Oh, yeah.. Putin's a big fookin' winner. Cha Oct 2014 #49

Well, he does enjoy a domestic approval rating of somewhere between 80-90%. Are you KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #51

Rofl Cha Oct 2014 #52

Wow. zappaman Oct 2014 #55

Check your PM... SidDithers Oct 2014 #69

This has been discussed before. Bush had a very positive approval level after the fall of Baghdad stevenleser Oct 2014 #58

Yeah, you know, as I think of it, Bush's approval rating in the days and weeks KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #74

Are you saying that polling in a damned near closed society should be taken seriously? Really? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #67

Do you think Russia conducts fair polls? Alittleliberal Oct 2014 #71

I know Gallup has come in for its share of criticism and I'm not a specialist KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #73

This will no doubt bump up Vlad's standing at home, whom he represents to what, 90%. Purveyor Oct 2014 #11

Were Putin to be replaced by a real ultra-nationalist (like Limonov, for example), the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #13

IIRC the Japanese attacked the US as a response to economic sanctions... HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #19

We've been playing a (very) dirty game in the region, ever since the collapse of KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #21

... SidDithers Oct 2014 #63

Are those the only choices? Oy. AndreaCG Oct 2014 #75

The hero worship ends pretty quickly tabasco Oct 2014 #24

Ah but unlike we 'westerners' the Russia people have a backbone and Purveyor Oct 2014 #28

Remember the American and British invasion of Russia? The Russians do HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #39

Speak for yourself when you glorify Russia and bash "Westerners". Cha Oct 2014 #41

Who else would I be speaking for. I've never claimed to represent anybody Purveyor Oct 2014 #42

Good. Cha Oct 2014 #44

I'm curious. If they have a backbone treestar Oct 2014 #60

They have never had those things you listed and witness what many there consider the Purveyor Oct 2014 #66

.... 840high Oct 2014 #65

I initially thought that said "Palin is starting to lose it" deutsey Oct 2014 #15

Good mythology Oct 2014 #17

Um, you do know that the average Russian's standard of living has KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #22

LOL! tabasco Oct 2014 #25

LOL! tsuki Oct 2014 #34

So? That doesn't detract from the point about Russia and "bad food imports".. Cha Oct 2014 #43

Standard of living went up in Germany under Hitler tabasco Oct 2014 #26

Actually, it didn't. The Nazi regime's policy of economic autarky actually led KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #27

And another Putin apologist emerges. GGJohn Oct 2014 #29

TYT/Buzzfeed: "Russia's Online Troll Army Is Huge, Hilarious & Already Everywhere " Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #38

Can you please tell me where to put in my application? I really KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #47

Hey, I never said you were good at it. But if it's "hilarious" they're looking for, you've at least Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #77

Not to be outdone, another tiresome Putin basher appears. KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #46

The thing is, this shouldn't be about Putin. It should be about our relationship with Russia CJCRANE Oct 2014 #53

Putin bashes his fucking self.. ask the mothers of the Russian Soldiers killed in the Ukraine Cha Oct 2014 #59

Quick! Somebody post that pic of him hunting lions with a spear in a loin cloth riding a white rhino leeroysphitz Oct 2014 #18

The sanctions are having an effect on Putin, he may want to have all the control, they are hurting Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #30

I watched the three hour meeting. It was tsuki Oct 2014 #31

How sweet you're sticking up for that homophobic/internet suppressing dictator. How nice Putin is Cha Oct 2014 #57

I think this is more about CakeGrrl Oct 2014 #61

You make some good points. What is your opinion of our policy in Syria? CJCRANE Oct 2014 #62

Is this the same Washington Post that tsuki Oct 2014 #72

Oh you don't believe the WAPO.. you don't think that plain spoken Putin could do such a thing? Cha Oct 2014 #76

That seems like a tendentious take on Putin's speech. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #32

A dictator having just completed a war of aggression blaming other folks? No its not "tendentious" stevenleser Oct 2014 #80

Here's the full video of the speech: CJCRANE Oct 2014 #36

Thank you. 840high Oct 2014 #64

Remember when people were calling Obama weak and Russia was mocking the sanctions? LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #78

I certainly remember. Wasn't so long ago, was it? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #79