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FBaggins

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20. I didn't realize that you were so poorly read.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:18 AM
Oct 2014

You could, for instance, take your reply as an excellent example.

France is reducing nuclear to 50% of their electricity, from about 75%.

Which is relevant to the point... how exactly?

France has less waste because they have fewer reactors - the US has around 100, France has around 50 to 60.

I didn't say that they have less waste (for which your reply would be at least a little relevant)... I said they have a small fraction of the waste problem than we have. And that's true. The amount of high-level waste that requires long-term storage is dramatically smaller than ours. And yes, dramatically smaller after adjusting for TWh generated.

Reprocessing is more expensive, more difficult to handle, and more dangerous than once-through.

Not more dangerous perhaps... but certainly more expensive and more difficult. So? Lots of things that are recycled are more expensive and difficult than just throwing the waste away and digging up new materials... but we recycle because it's better for the environment and converts "waste" to useful materials - which reducing landfill volume. That makes it worth the expense (as it does with reprocessing)

Reprocessing actually increases the total waste volume - and it doesn't solve the problem of high-level waste storage at all.

Lol! And that's where you prove that you couldn't have made this post if you read it yourself. That's just plain nutty. The person who came up with that claim was being intentionally deceptive. Were you falling for it or trying to get others to?

Right now, the US has to treat the entire volume of spent reactor fuel as high-level waste. Only ~4% of the French spent fuel ends up as HLW - plus they reduce the incoming waste stream because the reprocessed fuel takes the place of freshly mined and enriched uranium.

France reprocesses some of it's waste for two reasons:
- to extract plutonium for nuclear weapons
- to extract plutonium for breeder reactors


Even though they have all the plutonium for weapons that they need and don't currently have a breeder reactor (while dozens of reactors run off of the reprocessed fuel)... you still expect people to buy that?

Their breeder reactor projects failed miserably, and the international consensus for banning nuclear weapons is growing.

That's nice. Again though... why is it relevant?

Fukushima has not only killed starfish but irradiated dolphins in the Atlantic. zappaman Oct 2014 #1
I'm a particular fan of the "warming up the pacific" theory FBaggins Oct 2014 #2
I agree with the EPA. zappaman Oct 2014 #3
Since you asked about moi RobertEarl Oct 2014 #14
Annnnd RobertEarl Oct 2014 #15
I know that you and reality had a messy divorce due to irreconcilable differences... FBaggins Oct 2014 #24
Eh? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #26
There's no "attack" there FBaggins Oct 2014 #27
You remind me of faux news RobertEarl Oct 2014 #29
Which, no doubt, you don't see as a personal attack. FBaggins Oct 2014 #30
There you go again RobertEarl Oct 2014 #31
There *I* go again? FBaggins Oct 2014 #32
That's all you got? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #33
Making up stories? FBaggins Oct 2014 #34
Kris? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #36
I haven't seen him in months FBaggins Oct 2014 #37
Point is RobertEarl Oct 2014 #38
Of course... that too is incorrect. FBaggins Oct 2014 #39
That is just your opinion RobertEarl Oct 2014 #40
You have a long habit of mistaking facts for opinion... FBaggins Oct 2014 #42
Thanks for the link. zappaman Oct 2014 #41
And you still think that's somehow connected to demon cores at Fukushima, right? FBaggins Oct 2014 #25
Getting rid of all the nuclear waste in the cooling pools stored at the reactors should be first. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #4
Waste disposal is actually pretty easy FBaggins Oct 2014 #5
I didn't know you could recycle spent fule dlwickham Oct 2014 #6
Yep. You absolutely can. FBaggins Oct 2014 #7
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. bananas Oct 2014 #12
Breeder reactors? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #19
I didn't realize that you were so poorly read. FBaggins Oct 2014 #20
You can't recycle it, it's a PR term for reprocessing. bananas Oct 2014 #9
don't you lose some of the original aluminum in the process dlwickham Oct 2014 #16
Don't buy the spin FBaggins Oct 2014 #21
She's wrong, and Nuclear Matters is an astroturf group bananas Oct 2014 #8
NIRS is less credible. FBaggins Oct 2014 #11
Much better than coal. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #10
Solar and wind RobertEarl Oct 2014 #13
Until solar and wind can generate on-demand 24/7 we need something else Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #17
Nuclear is the most expensive RobertEarl Oct 2014 #18
All evidence to the contrary FBaggins Oct 2014 #22
Obama and Exelon - TBF Oct 2014 #23
Not sure how we are going to solve our problems here. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #28
Good point RobertEarl Oct 2014 #35
Fukushima is a joke when compared to coal. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #43
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