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cilla4progress

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33. I hear you.

Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:21 PM

Oct 2014

Even when we aren't downing Black folks in this country, we are stereotyping them. Voice tone, physical actions - look at a lot of TV shows and commercials.

Anyone seen the latest one with former NFL pro, Icky Woods? I rest my case.

Not that there is anything wrong with exulting in caricatures, necessarily, but how about some equal time for ALL the diversity within EVERY racial / ethnic / gender group?

Also, diehard Russell Wilson fan (I'm a Seahawk fan who actually LIVES in Washington state), and we love the guy! I hope he'll run for political office some day (I know, bad me). He has leadership ability oozing out his pores. I'm afraid he might be a Republican, though!

Here's a faux pas for you: national media yesterday talking about putting Marshawn Lynch on the "trading block". Maybe I'm too PC, and I'm not straight up criticizing the terminology, but it brings to mind how these young men are in fact seen and handled by the NFL - some links to commercial transactions of old (and yes, in some sense, I am referring to slavery). If nothing more, a poor choice of words.

Don't you just love thinking about all the Bubbas out there who stare at teevee football all day every Sunday? What are they thinking? This - and only this - is the right venue for Black men?

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Charles Barkley rants about Russell Wilson being called �not black enough� [View all] snooper2 Oct 2014 OP

I don't think it's as prevalent as he makes it out to be JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #1

I Think It Is RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #3

Why do you wonder? It shouldn't be white folks' concern. We have these discussions Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #5

True - JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #10

Who the heck is Paul Mooney? hfojvt Oct 2014 #49

Paul Mooney is another comedic genius! He and Dick Gregory, who, by the way... Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #51

Paul Mooney is a God among Black comedians..... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #58

Yeah because he gives whites permission to call us "niggers"--in context, of course. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #85

They also wrote JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #60

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #34

That's bullshit! Straight up bullshit. Are you black? If not, you need to check yourself. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #41

I have to agree with you JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #45

so whites do not have the right to talk about African American issues backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #71

What are these "white issues" you're talking about? Number23 Oct 2014 #73

Whites do not get to tell blacks how to deal with issues specific to them, no! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #81

And it goes both ways AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #84

Actually your post is not only highly offensive, it is borderline racist. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #44

It isn't an issue with the Seahawks AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #40

I'm not attacking the messenger at all JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #8

this is from just a couple years ago snooper2 Oct 2014 #27

Can you show me an article JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #28

do I want it to be true? odd question, it exists denying it is stupid snooper2 Oct 2014 #31

I'm not stupid JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #35

Why do you care so much about this? Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #32

Richard Sherman - another leader cilla4progress Oct 2014 #53

Yes you do know why white Americans care so much about this randys1 Oct 2014 #29

I hear you. cilla4progress Oct 2014 #33

Yep! Everyone was going in on Marshawn Lynch, too. I noticed that. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #39

Kevin Costner film "Draft Day" is very good if you are NFL fan, I am not a fan anymore randys1 Oct 2014 #70

I'll put it on my list! cilla4progress Oct 2014 #82

The media stereotypes EVERYONE in this country. Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #80

Good points all. cilla4progress Oct 2014 #83

I think you are right! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #37

It is clear that you are 100% right about the OP. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #52

yeah, you read me like a book snooper2 Oct 2014 #59

Yeah, it's kind of obvious what's going on in this thread. Shameful and stupid too, but also Number23 Oct 2014 #74

Just seems to be so many white experts about Black people, all it takes is one Black randys1 Oct 2014 #77

White people have always been excellent at telling everybody else about themselves Number23 Oct 2014 #79

Barkeley's mistake is implying that "all" black people practice that crap brush Oct 2014 #30

How many black people do you know? Quayblue Oct 2014 #46

I agree with you. Quayblue Oct 2014 #7

That makes sense JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #14

i agree, if anything black people (and other minorities) are often more JI7 Oct 2014 #72

When is the last time we saw a teapartier criticize another teapartier for being the moron randys1 Oct 2014 #78

I'm from Wisconsin YarnAddict Oct 2014 #2

Such BS LittleBlue Oct 2014 #4

I agree yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #6

Are there any statistics surrounding this? JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #9

I don't think so either yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #11

I don't think Obama stopped it JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #18

You're from Maryland, right? I used to teach college at Maryland, and let me tell you... Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #16

Excellent point on him not being very articulate himself JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #19

So true! cilla4progress Oct 2014 #55

Yup Harmony Blue Oct 2014 #15

There are definetly some issues with the Seahawks locker room. dilby Oct 2014 #12

Yes, there appears to be tension in the locker room, but racial tension? Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #22

I did not say racial tension, I send tension. dilby Oct 2014 #25

This is why I mentioned "racial tension" Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #36

Well there are some issues there for sure though. dilby Oct 2014 #48

Whereas I'm quite certain most of what we read it blather, cilla4progress Oct 2014 #56

I'm hoping for the spoiled children myself KamaAina Oct 2014 #47

My brother-in-law is black and was bullied for studying in middle school & high school joeglow3 Oct 2014 #13

What years/decade was that? JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #17

Omaha Nebraska. Late 1990s through 2006 or so. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #20

Interesting JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #21

Actually, Omaha is not the best place, economically speaking, for minorities joeglow3 Oct 2014 #23

I admit that I too was bullied for being smart and accused of "acting white". Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #38

ITA on Gen X and Gen Y JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #42

The Reagan Era/MTV Generation fucked it up for everyone. There was something about Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #50

I think there's some truth to that JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #57

Similar conversations were had about the SF quarterback. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #24

I personally know Wilson and his family Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #26

White privilege maced666 Oct 2014 #68

White privilege from Barkley? Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #69

Thank you. This OP is probably one of the most cringe-inducing fiascos I've seen in a long Number23 Oct 2014 #75

this is Charles Barkley's interpretation Enrique Oct 2014 #43

Exactly. Charles is extrapolating. Some other guys on the team were, too. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #54

This is what I posted yesterday about this.... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #61

SMH Mr Dixon Oct 2014 #62

"not black enough"? Really, Barkley? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #63

Um, he is arguing with you on this particular point. maced666 Oct 2014 #66

Well, alright. If that's true, you'll forgive the misunderstanding, I hope? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #67

True. bravenak Oct 2014 #76

Barkley is just trying to stir things up Catherine Vincent Oct 2014 #64

One of my friends got the "not black enough" line from black university faculty Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2014 #65