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TwilightGardener

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49. Vinson is a worker bee who did what she was told. Vinson did not seek to

Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:53 PM

Oct 2014

treat ebola patients, an ebola patient came to her unit and the hospital was out of its depth and let down by the CDC in allowing her to care for Duncan. Vinson was a victim, who was trashed in public, even though her fever was below 100 (hell, I don't consider 99.5 as really a fever at all, except in elderly patients who tend not to run high fevers). Spencer ignored feeling "sluggish" two days before his GI symptoms started, same as Vinson ignored "feeling funny" before her other symptoms arose. One's not a zero and the other a hero. The difference between them is that Spencer belongs to a valued class by the government, that of medical volunteer for ebola, and Vinson's just some unlucky nurse in TX who ended up hiring legal representation because she was taking blame for a situation not of her choosing.

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Dr. Gavin MacGregor-Skinner is now encouraging his colleagues to lie about being in Ebola hotzones [View all] apples and oranges Oct 2014 OP

as people predicted would happen, to mention just not entering u.s. thru NY or NJ. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #1

Caregivers have been made the enemy by Christie and Ilsa Oct 2014 #2

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #3

Except Texas did not know how to deal with it, and did NOT admit it. There are several facilities still_one Oct 2014 #6

It's no wonder why health workers are doing this because of people such as you- KittyWampus Oct 2014 #10

The people from Samaritan's Purse seem to be decent and respectful of the TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #18

holy shit Kali Oct 2014 #36

Yeah, that's my opinion of the way they're behaving lately. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #38

it always shocks me when fear and paranoia win over logic and science Kali Oct 2014 #42

I totally agree with you. avebury Oct 2014 #53

Just to get the MSF numbers correct: 3,288 staff in the 3 west African countries muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #44

I had read somewhere that there are 50 or so workers from the US who are expected to come TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #45

OMG, of course they are not beyond reproach ... but .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #46

I read recently that the MSF President (on NPR) was worried that the US was TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #47

Vinson was febrile when she flew etherealtruth Oct 2014 #48

Vinson is a worker bee who did what she was told. Vinson did not seek to TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #49

Actually, (much to her credit) she volunteered etherealtruth Oct 2014 #50

I don't believe she had any idea what she was really volunteering for-- TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #51

How does one obtain a BSN and not know? etherealtruth Oct 2014 #54

It's probable that she knew it was a dangerous hemorrhagic disease, and other TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #55

I never said she was ignorant ....? etherealtruth Oct 2014 #56

Sorry, you said it was a disservice to imply she's ignorant, and TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #57

That I will agree with etherealtruth Oct 2014 #58

Do you know how many health care workers in the US have Ebola? morningfog Oct 2014 #20

Research has not ruled out the possibility that asymptomatic carriers can apples and oranges Oct 2014 #28

No, it just has never happened in 40 years and morningfog Oct 2014 #39

Wrong again. There's no way to know whether asymptomatic apples and oranges Oct 2014 #43

Nonsense. What do you even mean it hasn't been the case morningfog Oct 2014 #52

BANGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Darb Oct 2014 #21

" All the health care workers in the U.S. who have ebola also wore PPE gear." hedgehog Oct 2014 #23

They have a system in place, and what New Jersey and New York are doing is contradictory to that still_one Oct 2014 #4

I understand his outrage. I do not understand his encouraging people to lie cali Oct 2014 #5

I agree. That will only detract from the argument. The fact is though that even without him saying still_one Oct 2014 #7

Having a doctor's or nurse's license doesn't confer any special privileges to "self-monitor"-- TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #8

Making false statements to federal officials is a felony. former9thward Oct 2014 #9

I don't blame him at all. The facts about Ebola are dismissed, and hysteria has taken over. Avalux Oct 2014 #11

Dr. MacGregor-Skinner is not above the law. apples and oranges Oct 2014 #29

Any doctor or nurse that lies leftynyc Oct 2014 #12

Doctor Spencer was fully protected by PPE gear when caring for ebola patients. LisaL Oct 2014 #13

Why doesn't Tom Frieden announce publicly that he "breached protocol", the way he did TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #15

+1 PADemD Oct 2014 #16

Passports have evidence of places you have been..and when SoCalDem Oct 2014 #17

Do they? Open EU borders stopped the stamping years ago. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #34

West Africa is not part of the EU n/t SoCalDem Oct 2014 #59

Well, DUH. I used it as an example to show that the general nature of the replied-to post was inac- WinkyDink Oct 2014 #61

yes, this was discussed during the congressional hearing TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #60

Cool souvenirs, though! WinkyDink Oct 2014 #62

I know! TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #19

The ebola panic people need to stop defaming health care workers on DU before somebody gets sued. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #22

I share your sentiment. It's appalling and needs to stop. n/t Avalux Oct 2014 #25

Who was defamed? apples and oranges Oct 2014 #30

Somebody's going to get sued over a remark on a political discussion group? Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #41

I raised six kids who brought home their share of stomach "flu" hedgehog Oct 2014 #24

There is a lack of understanding of how Ebola infection is acquired and progresses. Avalux Oct 2014 #26

Interesting summary of the video. I'd recommend others watch it for themselves Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #27

Let's hear your interpretation of the video. apples and oranges Oct 2014 #31

No, let's let the doctor's words speak for themselves. Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #32

Because, as has been shown, no American doctors will contract Ebola. .................NOT. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #33

Skinner is doing what now? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2014 #35

Do Elad and EarlG have Ebola? Renew Deal Oct 2014 #37

Nah, they married Kim Kardashian. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #40

The arrogance of these doctors Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #63