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woo me with science

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19. +1 This was an important OP:
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

that would have received many more recs if people focused on the message rather than that the current president has a "D" after his name.

"Obama and the End of Greatness"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025712300

Sat Oct 25, 2014, 01:13 AM
MannyGoldstein (29,201 posts)

"Obama and the End of Greatness"

Decided to read the New Yorker tonight. Always love the writing, although the writers have gotten pretty stiff, could use some time at Burning Man. Or maybe it's the editors. Editors can turn wonderful prose into dreck, too.

In any case, Obama and the End of Greatness sounded pretty important, so I read it. The short story is that a former Clinton speechwriter tells us that Obama can do little more than show up and shrug, and that's OK. That we can't expect greatness anymore.

What have we become that we acquiesce to acquiescence? This stuff drives me $&@#ing nuts.

We can do much, much better, but only if we demand it. Indeed, we need a revolution. Hopefully one that's calm and without bloodshed, but the difference between what we expect and what we need is a grand canyon, and crossing it will be a bear.

"arrangements" -- we don't need no damn legalities. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #1
If it's illegal for NSA to spy on Americans, no problem-o. GCHQ'll do it. Octafish Oct 2014 #31
"Power tends to corrupt... Tace Oct 2014 #2
Lord Acton was spot-on. Octafish Oct 2014 #32
Well, gee, I'm really confused now. woo me with science Oct 2014 #3
ECHELON is WASP exclusive Octafish Oct 2014 #34
Keep this on top. Our government has no right to be making "ARRANGEMENTS" like this. woo me with science Oct 2014 #4
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #20
Do these 'arrangements' have to do with specific suspects, perhaps? randome Oct 2014 #5
Don't even start. Seriously. woo me with science Oct 2014 #9
Can you read the PDF? There are checks and balances in place. randome Oct 2014 #28
If they have to do with "specific suspects" then there is probable cause to get a warrant. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #13
Ask the judge. Octafish Oct 2014 #35
Why has Obama not ended this bullshit? Maedhros Oct 2014 #6
Looks like he's the latest prez not to take on the mic... polichick Oct 2014 #17
Political courage is in very short supply these days. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #18
+1 This was an important OP: woo me with science Oct 2014 #19
True, and the ptb make sure that only compliant candidates... polichick Oct 2014 #24
I guess he's just fine with it. No resistance from him that I can see. pa28 Oct 2014 #26
Excellent questions for which the public has no right-to-know. Octafish Oct 2014 #36
So let's join in with DNI CLAPPER leading his arrangement of "God Save the Queen"=no rule of law.n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #7
Did you see the NFL London broadcast Sunday morning? Octafish Oct 2014 #37
No-but I'm glad that the LIONS won. n/t bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #44
K&R Cleita Oct 2014 #8
The old end-around. Octafish Oct 2014 #38
Aw, shoot! gratuitous Oct 2014 #10
Theres no other solution! woo me with science Oct 2014 #11
I was gonna say, "Aw shit" gratuitous Oct 2014 #14
Did Snowden leak the Family Jewels back in '76? Octafish Oct 2014 #39
"We don't need no stinkin' warrants!" yellowcanine Oct 2014 #12
Warrants are so Old School. Octafish Oct 2014 #41
The FBI's shameful recruitment of Nazi war criminals (Richard Rashke essay 3-6-13 Reuters) bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #47
The Five Eyes program whereby plausible deniability exists for the participating countries riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #15
^^^^^^ Thank you. ^^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2014 #16
That's the Formula! Octafish Oct 2014 #25
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #21
Safe and effective, secret spying is quite profitable, too. Octafish Oct 2014 #40
Recommend...... KoKo Oct 2014 #22
Mass Surveillance in America: A Timeline of Loosening Laws and Practices (Cora Currier, Justin bobthedrummer Oct 2014 #23
This is a great overview. Kick for your addition. Thanks! Nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #29
Passing and renewing the "Patriot" act are two huge steps JEB Oct 2014 #42
Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2014 #46
Recommend wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #27
Seems to me that this needs another kick. hootinholler Oct 2014 #30
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #33
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Oct 2014 #43
Are people afraid to post on this subject? JEB Oct 2014 #45
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