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vicdoc

(33 posts)
26. Fear is the fastest way to lose freedom...
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:20 AM
Oct 2014

I don't think they'll be able to short of a court order.

However, after the NYC experience of Dr. Spencer who went all over NYC, taking public transportation, using Uber, going bowling and eating at restaurants, all while having a fever, people are not happy he didn't voluntarily stay at home. Some of the places he visited closed down to decontaminate. Nurses at the hospital he is now staying (Bellevue) are not happy to be working there, calling in sick, being shunned by their co-workers, even family, and being discriminated by people who serve them (hairdressers, etc).

A single Ebola patient can shut down the ICU of a hospital for weeks. Local hospitals are not equipped to deal with a BSL4 pathogen like Ebola.

The likelihood she will get Ebola is low. But there is no vaccine or proven treatment for Ebola means an infection is not preventable like with measles, smallpox, etc are... Dr. Spencer thought he was fine, too.

I would agree with one thing she says: more education is needed, and certainly a lot more research to develop vaccines.

If they are clamoring to quarantine her then I wonder why they don't also do the same for the workers caring for the Ebola patients in hospitals here, in Dallas, NY, Atlanta, etc...

In order to get in front of the fear factor even California has just announced a 21 day quarantine too. And I predict a drip, drip, drip of scares and actual Ebola cases which will cause many more states to enact quarantines, and I think Obama will eventually do the same thing.

Waiting for people to get past the incubation period doesn't seem like a major inconvenience when you're talking about Ebola.

Guns? The murder rate has fallen by half over the past 20 years. You wouldn't know it given the hysterical coverage of everything that bleeds on TV news.

Our freedoms? Sorry, going, going, gone. It started long ago, and they're not coming back.

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Ultimately, no they cannot. She will win this battle. morningfog Oct 2014 #1
I hope so malaise Oct 2014 #2
You keep on repeatedly stating that it's clear she'll win in court, but that does not make it so. branford Oct 2014 #5
On due process and equal protection, she'll win. morningfog Oct 2014 #8
Im not a lawyer, but what about this Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #11
What part of 'with' do I not understand? GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #13
The provision is of little value without the implementing regulations branford Oct 2014 #16
That's why Kaci Hickox is such a brave woman Warpy Oct 2014 #3
Exactly! Thank you for this. Your post is better worded than my similar one earlier. uppityperson Oct 2014 #4
Same crap rational used to confine Japanese citizens in WWII. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #6
Not really, and if you recall, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the internment. branford Oct 2014 #17
The court at the time upheld the internment. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #30
You may want to have a look at this little gem Skidmore Oct 2014 #7
Life as we knew it malaise Oct 2014 #10
Good god. woo me with science Oct 2014 #27
They'll haul your ass off while saying, "You look a little peaked this morning." Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #9
Reminds me of when the Soviets CanonRay Oct 2014 #12
That's what "quarantine" is. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #14
How close are we to "You look African, so you and your family are quarantined." nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #15
Not even remotely close, and the hyperbole is unhelpful to the discussion. branford Oct 2014 #19
Ebola does not care but the public does. Quick search gives me these incidents.... uppityperson Oct 2014 #22
Anecdotes are not data or proof of pervasive trends. branford Oct 2014 #23
Since Obama is from Kenya, we've already crossed that line a looooonnnngggg time ago!!! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #29
This is how we have the NSA spying on us now. cwydro Oct 2014 #18
my god. we fuckin went thru this stupid with tsa nad patriot. we were fcukin cowards. i stopped seabeyond Oct 2014 #20
Since when do public health officials not have the right to quarantine? LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #21
they have a right to quarantine, but it must be based on medical science, not political polls magical thyme Oct 2014 #24
I don't see anybody on DU really looking into the laws treestar Oct 2014 #25
I did, and the science doesn't. magical thyme Oct 2014 #34
So you didn't feel like looking at the laws treestar Oct 2014 #35
I relied on a civil rights lawyer, who did look at the laws. magical thyme Oct 2014 #36
Fear is the fastest way to lose freedom... vicdoc Oct 2014 #26
Good post malaise Oct 2014 #31
We are nothing more than a society that answers TO, works FOR, and gets punished BY a government. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #28
So you are wishing that they would violate an entirely different set of rights... Oktober Oct 2014 #32
Do I sense a panic of gov't taking away freedoms?? boston bean Oct 2014 #33
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