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prayin4rain

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164. That over simplification is simply not true.

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:33 PM

Oct 2014

The case law surrounding quarantine, specifically, is not well developed. The States do have the power to implement many health laws. Civil rights are not violated every time the government restricts a person's movement, obviously.

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Kaci Hickox has left her home with her boyfriend [View all] cali Oct 2014 OP

she should be quarantined strawberries Oct 2014 #1

you do realize that for months medical personnel have been returning from cali Oct 2014 #2

It's actually decades. American medical personnel have been treating catbyte Oct 2014 #5

+ 1000 nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #12

21 days is not asking that much strawberries Oct 2014 #14

So you are saying that civil rights can be negated because you are afraid? notrightatall Oct 2014 #31

yes I am saying they should be strawberries Oct 2014 #39

sorry about the spelling on quarantined strawberries Oct 2014 #40

So laws and the Constitution be damned because you are afraid?? notrightatall Oct 2014 #52

Yep. Shades of 9/11 alarimer Oct 2014 #55

Pants-wetters...... love that! notrightatall Oct 2014 #116

you don't have to live in my country strawberries Oct 2014 #60

Your country? liberalmuse Oct 2014 #88

Touch� etherealtruth Oct 2014 #92

you said you didn't strawberries Oct 2014 #94

Is a 72 hour wait for an abortion OK with you , too?? notrightatall Oct 2014 #124

my personal view on abortion strawberries Oct 2014 #127

WOW. notrightatall Oct 2014 #130

you welcome strawberries Oct 2014 #134

Wow.... tammywammy Oct 2014 #133

I think so the directions said to turn left and I did nt strawberries Oct 2014 #135

Just to the left of Ted Cruz, so it seems. notrightatall Oct 2014 #137

glad to know I am left of ted cruz strawberries Oct 2014 #138

I f you move just a little more to the left, you might pass Michelle Bachman. notrightatall Oct 2014 #140

ah never underestimate strawberries Oct 2014 #147

After defending a 72-hour wait for abortion tammywammy Oct 2014 #139

let me repost what I said strawberries Oct 2014 #142

LOL notrightatall Oct 2014 #146

I think you would be happier here: notrightatall Oct 2014 #158

ok, you have that right strawberries Oct 2014 #160

Seems more in line with your "opinions" notrightatall Oct 2014 #161

and in the end we agree with each other strawberries Oct 2014 #162

Sure does !! notrightatall Oct 2014 #144

. notrightatall Oct 2014 #136

Hear, hear !!!!! notrightatall Oct 2014 #95

Oh suddenly rights DO matter? gcomeau Oct 2014 #180

yes nt strawberries Oct 2014 #187

Well that's refreshing. gcomeau Oct 2014 #190

glad I could refresh your day nt strawberries Oct 2014 #193

it is ok to have a different opinion than you strawberries Oct 2014 #46

Sorry "opinion" does not enter into this. notrightatall Oct 2014 #59

let's see what happens at time goes on nt strawberries Oct 2014 #61

NO ! Let us NOT wait and see what happens. notrightatall Oct 2014 #64

lol strawberries Oct 2014 #69

Please eat them. notrightatall Oct 2014 #79

The opinion part is that this is not a civil rights violation. prayin4rain Oct 2014 #157

Sorry, but it is settled law. notrightatall Oct 2014 #159

That over simplification is simply not true. prayin4rain Oct 2014 #164

Not with out due process. notrightatall Oct 2014 #166

Has she been denied notice, counsel or a hearing? n/t prayin4rain Oct 2014 #167

Any "hearing "that has happened has only supported her position. notrightatall Oct 2014 #172

I get it, you're just bored and being silly. Nevermind. n/t prayin4rain Oct 2014 #173

.. notrightatall Oct 2014 #175

You do understand that the burden is on the state, not her. notrightatall Oct 2014 #176

Burden and due process are distinct. Yes, at the prayin4rain Oct 2014 #182

So?? They have been , do date , UNABLE TO DO THAT !!! notrightatall Oct 2014 #184

You just don't understand the legal process, clearly. Hint: it's not like it is in movies. n/t prayin4rain Oct 2014 #189

Sorry, Jr., but your "opinion" has been set aside by the "legal process". notrightatall Oct 2014 #192

Do you really think your ad hominem attacks will shut us up?? Those with whom you disagree adigal Oct 2014 #68

Sorry no matter how much you wish it did, your "opinion" is not now nor ever will be ... notrightatall Oct 2014 #71

. Iggo Oct 2014 #143

If she becomes symptomatic, she will turn herself in to the nearest quarantine facility. PDJane Oct 2014 #32

I scratch my head - how can you say this? adigal Oct 2014 #70

Good thing you are not in any position where your "opinion" matters to any one but yourself. notrightatall Oct 2014 #78

Nor does your's - duh. We are writing on a discussion board. adigal Oct 2014 #99

'cept I have the law, and the constitution to back up my "opinion" notrightatall Oct 2014 #104

Your opinion doesn't 840high Oct 2014 #185

But my "opinion" has the advantage of being in line with the law. notrightatall Oct 2014 #188

You don't know my opinion. 840high Oct 2014 #197

ok notrightatall Oct 2014 #198

The NYC doctor felt crappy, he should have stayed home. This nurse does not feel crappy. She does yellowcanine Oct 2014 #83

But the fact is the doctor did not stay at home, branford Oct 2014 #90

Hatred of Christie is overwhelming common sense here. After election when Obama puts in a quarantine adigal Oct 2014 #100

He's already quarantined the troops returning from Africa, branford Oct 2014 #109

When discussing the LEGALITY of a quarantine, as opposed to the science, notrightatall Oct 2014 #163

You keep on making conclusory legal pronouncements without any explanation. branford Oct 2014 #171

Attorney?????????????? notrightatall Oct 2014 #174

Yes, a a commercial trial attorney in NYC, branford Oct 2014 #186

Well so far, courts have ruled against your opinion. notrightatall Oct 2014 #191

What courts, state or federal, have ruled on the recent Ebola quarantines? branford Oct 2014 #194

The burden is on the state, not her. notrightatall Oct 2014 #196

You made a clear statement that court have rules against the Ebola quarantines. branford Oct 2014 #200

Here you go Mr. "Attorney" notrightatall Oct 2014 #206

Prove it. TM99 Oct 2014 #199

I don't know if Hickox will lose, but stating she'll definitely win is ignorant and foolish. branford Oct 2014 #201

The internet is sadly full of 'experts' TM99 Oct 2014 #203

Not if one applies precedent. notrightatall Oct 2014 #207

Actually, the troops had NOTHING to do with ebola patients adigal Oct 2014 #195

Christie is yesterday's news. The nurse is in Maine now. Pay attention. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #117

So maybe they could wear a temperature monitor which reports temperature in real time remotely? yellowcanine Oct 2014 #112

If that is true, why has Obama agreed to quarantine thousands of troops? nt branford Oct 2014 #118

"If that is true." No "if" about it. What Obama agreed to or doesn't agree to doesn't change that. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #122

Link that NYC doctor "felt crappy" please? magical thyme Oct 2014 #111

He had fatigue. LisaL Oct 2014 #114

a little tired does not equal fatigue. Neither is listed as a symptom by CDC. magical thyme Oct 2014 #121

I think you're right. She 840high Oct 2014 #183

Panic! Quarantine everyone! TBF Oct 2014 #36

21 hours is too much if it is not medically necessary. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #77

+1trillion nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #123

There have been quite a number of incidents Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #181

If a person is asymptomatic sarisataka Oct 2014 #8

the ship strawberries Oct 2014 #41

See my post #35 sarisataka Oct 2014 #48

I did, thanks strawberries Oct 2014 #82

I don't necessarily agree sarisataka Oct 2014 #91

Just do what a cop says. notrightatall Oct 2014 #26

Yeah. It is. PDJane Oct 2014 #33

after the elections strawberries Oct 2014 #43

Me, too, and then all of the naysayers here will suddenly like the idea of quarantine!!! adigal Oct 2014 #72

that's right strawberries Oct 2014 #74

Not without due process. Read again. notrightatall Oct 2014 #93

ok strawberries Oct 2014 #96

Sorry , its on you.... notrightatall Oct 2014 #98

and when I get afraid strawberries Oct 2014 #106

Enjoy your FEAR !!!!! notrightatall Oct 2014 #107

I will nt strawberries Oct 2014 #108

I doubt it.......... notrightatall Oct 2014 #110

ok, doubt it, I don't care nt strawberries Oct 2014 #115

Neither do I notrightatall Oct 2014 #120

Don't make up crap adigal Oct 2014 #97

Funny thing is that California law says otherwise. notrightatall Oct 2014 #101

Nonsense. notrightatall Oct 2014 #89

No. I dislike Christie, but so what? PDJane Oct 2014 #145

"If he [Christie] admitted he was wrong . . . " - the Ersatz Sun King ("L'etat, c'est moi") never KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #165

None of them should be quarantined. longship Oct 2014 #37

21 Days is too long for the selfish people on this board adigal Oct 2014 #67

this board can be heartless strawberries Oct 2014 #73

What "law" is she defying ? notrightatall Oct 2014 #86

Wow! Could you point me to Maine's law allowing a mandatory quarantine? Because I searched this am magical thyme Oct 2014 #119

Seems state judges could not find such a law either. notrightatall Oct 2014 #155

There is nothing selfish about standing up for your Constitutional rights. Xithras Oct 2014 #178

Wow, when you're wrong you go all out. valerief Oct 2014 #148

How many people who are showing no signs of ebola are we going to quarantine? There have been jwirr Oct 2014 #169

Based on the recommendation of... gcomeau Oct 2014 #179

Good for her! alfie Oct 2014 #3

This is LePage's "white Bronco chase" moment. What a schmuck he is. bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #4

well put. Alas, Mainers are just as fearful as other Americans cali Oct 2014 #6

Good thing the law says otherwise. notrightatall Oct 2014 #28

what law? please cite. cali Oct 2014 #42

I am agreeing with you. (i think) notrightatall Oct 2014 #50

You are so wrong - states can put in quarantines for the public good. adigal Oct 2014 #103

Not with out due process. notrightatall Oct 2014 #105

did you give him time to found the link to the law strawberries Oct 2014 #85

unlike oj the glove fit and she seems safe dembotoz Oct 2014 #10

I hope they can protect themselves from any crazies who show up. randome Oct 2014 #7

ya. someone might eat them up, blood a flying, in all the fear of death from this totally healthy seabeyond Oct 2014 #53

She would be one of the dumbest health care workers to not monitor herself during the 21 days Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #9

She is monitoring. tammywammy Oct 2014 #11

I know she is monitoring, the dumb politicians doesn't seem to know this but if they do then it is Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #15

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or perhaps she believes she is right and standing up for what she knows and believes cali Oct 2014 #16

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Because they were subjected to substandard protocol practices by Texas hospital. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #25

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why are people making up symptoms for Dr. Spencer. He did not "feel feverish" magical thyme Oct 2014 #125

Stop making sense, it won't deter TeamEbola. Darb Oct 2014 #153

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it couldn't possibly be Daily Mail and their anonymous source libeling him magical thyme Oct 2014 #205

It would be 15 minutes of shame for the politicians. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #17

Her "15 minutes of fame" wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #19

that's really what it is. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #45

I wonder if she's angling for her own reality show Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #75

EEEK!! A Mouse. Darb Oct 2014 #149

I'm very curious to see what they do. KMOD Oct 2014 #18

I hope they are wearing protective gear strawberries Oct 2014 #44

She is NOT ill. jen63 Oct 2014 #80

Seems to me that you are purposely trying to instill fear on a message board, Darb Oct 2014 #150

did that over the weekend strawberries Oct 2014 #156

Is there a helicopter following her? wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #20

really? omg. i didnt go into the link. i do not watch the news. and i was doing my dancing. so seabeyond Oct 2014 #58

Yes and she transferred from the bicycle to a white Bronco driven by O.J. Simpson. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #87

Interesting response DustyJoe Oct 2014 #21

They would be charged sarisataka Oct 2014 #35

but wins her case on DustyJoe Oct 2014 #131

that's pretty silly, DustyJoe--you really think that if her quarantine is declared unconstitutional fishwax Oct 2014 #168

It doesn't work that way sarisataka Oct 2014 #170

She'll run over any anti-science in her way! wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #23

i love this woman. science, knowledge, experience vs ignorance, fearmongering, politics. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #56

I hope the trees don't catch ebola Blue_Adept Oct 2014 #128

I ride my bike every morning too. cwydro Oct 2014 #30

I wonder if they're getting a new tent ready for her. Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #34

The soldiers coming back from the area need to be set loose without quarantine also. NM_Birder Oct 2014 #38

That won't happen. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #47

The military gets quarentine because flamingdem Oct 2014 #57

And, how exactly does it make them more or less infectious or contagious? branford Oct 2014 #84

the first ones were. wives, husbands, kids running to them to smoother them in hugs and kisses. seabeyond Oct 2014 #102

Gov. Ebola is starting to cave KMOD Oct 2014 #49

hasnt this been so interesting KMOD. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #54

It sure has. I'm so very proud of her. KMOD Oct 2014 #62

me, too. this nation has so needed exactly this. a person walking it, with such confidence, and seabeyond Oct 2014 #66

make the point. the first person out. draw the fuckin line at stupid. i really admire this woman. seabeyond Oct 2014 #51

Apparently the press isn't too worried... brooklynite Oct 2014 #63

I wonder if she can take LePage down with her civil disobedience... Tatiana Oct 2014 #65

Would love to see that happen. We so need to lose LePage magical thyme Oct 2014 #126

Good! morningfog Oct 2014 #76

Physically fit woman goes for bike ride...makes headlines. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #81

Maybe she could challenge Christie and LePage to a bicycle race. That would be fun. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #132

he'll have to get a court order to do so. magical thyme Oct 2014 #113

Getting that attention she loves phil89 Oct 2014 #129

if she did not get that attention, she would still be sitting in tent, no flush toilet, no shower, seabeyond Oct 2014 #141

YOU are correct...Big brother is upon us people. Read Orwell's onecent Oct 2014 #177

Another Ebola supporter. Darb Oct 2014 #151

Did CNN send a helicopter to track her? JoePhilly Oct 2014 #152

This would make an epic Ebola romance flick KamaAina Oct 2014 #202

Outrageous. woolldog Oct 2014 #204