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Xithras

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35. I have to wonder whether there may be an immune response at play.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

The exchange of bodily fluids during sex is mutual...men do absorb female body fluids during unprotected sexual activity. In fact, the vast majority of heterosexual men with HIV acquired it though sex with women. When the vaginal and cervical fluids from the woman come into contact with the urethra, cellular or viral transfer can occur. The prostate, of course, sits at the base of the urethra and would be one of the first body parts to come into contact with these foreign cells.

It's theoretically possible that repeated exposure to many foreign cells from different women could boost immune response around the prostate. The larger the group of women that the man sleeps with, the better adapted the immune system could become to identifying and attacking foreign cells in the prostate region. This adaptation, in turn, could give the immune system a better opportunity to identify and destroy abnormal cells that originate within the prostate itself. Under this theory, sex would act as sort of a "bad cell vaccine", and having sex with more partners would allow a man to "vaccinate" himself against more cell types.

On the flipside, there's another possibility. TOO MUCH sex can actually weaken the immune system in men, and even excessive masturbation has been linked to immune system weakening. This may be relevant because multiple studies have found that prostate cancer rates are much higher in men with diagnosed autoimmune disorders, leading to a theory that prostate cancer itself may be (at least partially) initiated by an autoimmune disorder. If prostate cancer IS caused by the immune system attacking the prostate (or cells in the prostate that it sees as abnormal), then weaking the immune system may reduce prostate cancer risk.

I think I favor the first possibility over the first though. The first would also explain why homosexual men don't see the same benefit, while the second doesn't. The second also disagrees with a number of studies that link weakened immune systems with increases in prostate cancer rates, though the studies on that are still very contradictory.

They're just theories, but they're as valid as any other theories at this point.

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See, I was right all along. TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #1
In another striking study... al_liberal Oct 2014 #2
Can you do 20 all at the same time and achieve the same results? Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #3
you don't like the research snooper2 Oct 2014 #4
I have a feeling it's not the number of women it's the amount of sex. dilby Oct 2014 #5
Is that all at once? Or do you WhiteTara Oct 2014 #6
Sois there a scientific explanation? treestar Oct 2014 #7
bingo, the piece they are still struggling with are gay partners snooper2 Oct 2014 #8
My wife has been telling me I need to be more health conscious. badtoworse Oct 2014 #9
Yeah I was bothered by the Gay study. dilby Oct 2014 #10
I'm 78 years old and have some serious catching up to do! N/T justhanginon Oct 2014 #11
Correspondence is not causality..... brooklynite Oct 2014 #12
O... mg. such maschoism on this thread that by the last one, i snorted.... nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #13
Yeah, I'm guessing there is an underlying reason that has nothing to do with # of partners. stevenleser Oct 2014 #14
Ernest Borgnine on long healthy living safeinOhio Oct 2014 #15
read summary jollyreaper2112 Oct 2014 #16
yes, its not, but most studies on health are cross sectional and not able to prove causation La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #17
But did they study the difference between tops and bottoms. dilby Oct 2014 #18
I just realized that my first wife was actually being altruistic... nt GliderGuider Oct 2014 #19
Well yeah...if by that you meant all 20 would feel disappointed. n/t. Ken Burch Oct 2014 #20
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Ain't science grand? n/t customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #31
I don't buy that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #27
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I saw that. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #25
:) The notion that single men "get more" than married was blown a long time ago. Hortensis Oct 2014 #42
I think I need to conduct my own research Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #32
Or, what about 19 ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #30
So will insurance cover this? I'm more than a bit behind the curve. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #21
Not for an erection lasting more than 5 hours. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #24
If I have an erection lasting more than 5 hours, I'm not calling my doctor. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #26
Is that twenty a hard number? Brother Buzz Oct 2014 #28
Harder for some than others. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #29
assuming you mean harder to attain... HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #43
I have to wonder whether there may be an immune response at play. Xithras Oct 2014 #35
Thanks for this. Made an otherwise dopey thread worth reading. n/t :-) seaglass Oct 2014 #36
Prostate cancer is a huge killer of men in my family. Xithras Oct 2014 #37
for the 10 millionth time: Correlation is not causation KurtNYC Oct 2014 #38
Yeah. I'm so sick of the way these things are reported. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #39
Love those charts. From one of my fave sites. progressoid Oct 2014 #41
Decreases the chance of prostate cancer mmonk Oct 2014 #40
LOL! Now THAT is funny! Sincere hat tip! - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #47
. mmonk Oct 2014 #48
"Researchers at the University of Montreal..." Let me guess. These researchers are all dudes. Yavin4 Oct 2014 #44
Can it be all 20 at once or spread out over time? zappaman Oct 2014 #45
I'll never get prostrate cancer then Aerows Oct 2014 #46
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