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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts) Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:59 PM Oct 2014

Dr. Craig Spencer did not "lie" to NY Health officials: NY Health - "Dr. Spencer is a Hero....." [View all]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102132467#.

Can the terrified bed wetting children please leave the room and go join their science denying buddies in the Teabagger Room next door and let the adult scientists do the talking?

"Asked about the report, Health Department spokeswoman Veronica Lewin said: "Dr. Spencer cooperated fully with the Health Department to establish a timeline of his movements in the days following his return to New York from Guinea, providing his MetroCard, credit cards and cellphone."

"He followed protocol by contacting his employer immediately upon developing fever and remained in his apartment until being transported to the hospital, which is why the chance anyone else contracted Ebola is extremely small. Dr. Spencer is a hero who deserves our thanks and thoughts for a speedy recovery," Lewin said in an email statement to CNBC."

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Dr. Craig Spencer did not "lie" to NY Health officials: NY Health - "Dr. Spencer is a Hero....." [View all] Fred Sanders Oct 2014 OP

You seem obsessed by Ebola. 840high Oct 2014 #1

Truth is not an obsession, scientific truth is. But you cling to your fear, free country. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #3

No - actually you don't get 840high Oct 2014 #27

And I am the assistant director of the CDC, so I got you there. The Internet never lies. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #93

Now that's funny - I live within 840high Oct 2014 #94

A lot of us are trying to dump cold water on all that burning hair Warpy Oct 2014 #4

K&R this post. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #6

+1 Scuba Oct 2014 #38

Amen.... daleanime Oct 2014 #102

Thank you, Dr. Spencer, you are a hero, you deserve our thanks, and speedy recovery, dear sir. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #2

Medical professionals are not "heroes" BubbaFett Oct 2014 #5

Medical professionals jen63 Oct 2014 #8

Still not buying it BubbaFett Oct 2014 #12

Who are hero's in your view? JaneyVee Oct 2014 #33

People you'd probably never hear about BubbaFett Oct 2014 #36

Fighting Ebola in West Africa is considered sexy? deurbano Oct 2014 #45

Really. I think the poster just made it up. Cha Oct 2014 #81

Don't be shy. blackspade Oct 2014 #52

Single mothers BubbaFett Oct 2014 #108

So just single mothers? blackspade Oct 2014 #111

You're my fucking hero BubbaFett Oct 2014 #112

What's our angle? What's your's? Thor_MN Nov 2014 #118

Poor Bubba, can not name a single unsexy medical hero. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #55

Bet your hero's... daleanime Oct 2014 #103

You're not being asked to. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #42

You don't have to ask me BubbaFett Oct 2014 #43

Just have problems tazkcmo Oct 2014 #70

I'll give you an 840high Oct 2014 #95

I would agree with that BubbaFett Oct 2014 #107

Look, Bubba, medical folks who give up cozy practises in America to treat the sick and abandoned Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #10

Many of their heads are too big already BubbaFett Oct 2014 #14

So you hate their "arrogance" for helping other folks.....why do you hate education and compassion? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #17

What did I say BubbaFett Oct 2014 #18

No, it does not dilute the word. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #11

Agreed BubbaFett Oct 2014 #15

medical professionals who volunteer to go into a hot zone magical thyme Oct 2014 #13

Correct. The physicians 840high Oct 2014 #30

Nor mine BubbaFett Oct 2014 #32

Did they give up their practises to travel to the poorest parts of the world to heal the sick? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #39

One did charity work with TB 840high Oct 2014 #78

And the others? Charity work is good, much time? How much sacrifice? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #79

Much time? It became his 840high Oct 2014 #80

Bubba- they are purposefully risking their lives to save others Marrah_G Oct 2014 #76

I'm still with the governors on this. badtoworse Oct 2014 #7

Still with the teabbager and anti-science ebola governors? I can do no more than say - Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #16

Probably better to be with science on this. Adrahil Oct 2014 #109

As ruled by a judge in Maine today and complete surrender by the ebola governor. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #115

Glad to see this post N/T UglyGreed Oct 2014 #9

Sad to see UglyGreed Oct 2014 #19

Not to worry. Truth takes a while to sink in with those blinded by fear, but it is inevitable. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #21

Hope it does UglyGreed Oct 2014 #106

It do today, Kaci Hickox 2, ebola governors 0. Time to make the fear mongers pay. Vote. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #114

Will do N/T UglyGreed Nov 2014 #117

Kick tammywammy Oct 2014 #20

Read the actual responses about the Post article from the health authorities. branford Oct 2014 #22

Dr. Spencer, M.D., M.P.H. knows more than you what is safe or not. You go with the teaggagers, fine. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #23

Well, he might know what is safe or not, but he still managed to get Ebola somehow. LisaL Oct 2014 #25

And yet passed it to NO ONE! nt Logical Oct 2014 #84

It must have super mutated! morningfog Oct 2014 #87

I have to agree. LisaL Oct 2014 #26

Yes, this was a non-response response. They clearly didn't want to hurt him, and that's fine. pnwmom Oct 2014 #86

It sadly appears that some cannot imagine Dr. Spencer as a fallible human being. branford Oct 2014 #90

It's the "M.D.eity syndrome," perhaps? pnwmom Oct 2014 #91

What mistake did he make? KMOD Oct 2014 #97

I said that Dr. Spencer is fallible, as is everyone, not that he necessarily did anything wrong. branford Oct 2014 #99

Dr. Spencer worked with extremely ill people KMOD Oct 2014 #101

I agree with every word you wrote leftynyc Oct 2014 #113

Maybe we could ask Dr. spencer as he fights for his life, you want to wake him up? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #116

Thanks for this post. The sniveling whiners who let irrational Laurian Oct 2014 #24

They are children clinging to their fear, angry at those that do not share it...it is OK, they do Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #28

Differences of opinion is 840high Oct 2014 #96

It is in the DU hive mind. n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #98

What is the timeline on him? Do you know? notadmblnd Oct 2014 #29

Please go start your own trembling anti-science, anti-fact, pro-teabagger, pro ebola governor thread Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #31

pardon me? notadmblnd Oct 2014 #34

Apologies, my anger at the anti-science crowd is clouding my judgment. Sorry. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #35

Why is this something you would get angry about? BubbaFett Oct 2014 #37

And why do you seem...... daleanime Oct 2014 #104

I've lost my patience with them too. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #41

He is serious condition jen63 Oct 2014 #50

Yes we do. I wonder if he got a blood transfusion? notadmblnd Oct 2014 #51

I don't think I noticed any jen63 Oct 2014 #53

I respect his privacy, I am sure he does not give a polite damn about what others think of him. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #56

Hey, I agree. jen63 Oct 2014 #60

No disrespect intended, Internet discussions lack the tone of human voice. It is a problem. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #62

The people who take imagination over facts are very much like other 'faith based' mindsets. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #40

I detest, abhor, hate and am disgusted with any politician that uses fear to get a vote. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #44

More details: deurbano Oct 2014 #46

Dr. Varma's comments do not address the issue in the NY Post article. branford Oct 2014 #61

You are spreading Fox News bullshit, spread it somewhere else, your side lost. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #63

If you believe that my posts violate any rules, you are free to alert. branford Oct 2014 #64

You misunderstand. You are not violating DU rules, you are violating scientific rules! Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #66

You should read the majority of my posts on the Ebola matters more carefully. branford Oct 2014 #67

Your argument still doubts that Dr. Spencer reported "lies" and Fox News/NY Post is truthful. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #69

Again, you did not carefully read my post. branford Oct 2014 #73

Again, you and I do not share facts. Just as one example because that is it with this. Dr. Spencer Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #75

I find the need for some here to highlight anonymous claims from a Murdoch tabloid ludicrous. deurbano Oct 2014 #82

The claims are very straightforward, and other parties should have relevant knowledge branford Oct 2014 #88

Good idea. Let's wait for his personal response. deurbano Oct 2014 #100

What about my Rights? SoapBox Oct 2014 #47

You have no right that says you won't contract an illness... Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2014 #48

Changing and evolving procedures sounds too sciencey, eh? Pathwalker Oct 2014 #54

Do NOT mention RNA, DNA mutation, viral load or anything like that to him..he will be "infuriated". Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #58

I'm just glad they weren't alive during the Revolution or WW2. Pathwalker Oct 2014 #65

Wow. You really hate folks with more education and knowledge than you....get help. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #57

So you have rights superior to hers? blackspade Oct 2014 #68

His right to live in fear trumps a citizen's constitutional right to due process. And to reason. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #74

Stop believing Fox over science. jeff47 Oct 2014 #83

If you're terrified, you have the right Adrahil Oct 2014 #110

So glad sanity is returning. blackspade Oct 2014 #49

See post #47.....there are some desperately holding onto their debunked claims...they fear having Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #59

ouch... blackspade Oct 2014 #71

k&r with thanks. F tabloid journalism and shame on those who believe in such bad sources. uppityperson Oct 2014 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #85

Thank you Fred Sanders malokvale77 Oct 2014 #77

Thank you for posting this . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #89

Kick for non tabloid media reporting. uppityperson Oct 2014 #92

Awesome that you're able to discuss this without shame and ridicule... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #105