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Blue_Tires

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15. Ah, yes...The corporate ass-covering press release...
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 03:59 PM
Oct 2014

Authored by Mr. Transparency himself...What an egotistical self-serving ratfuck scumbag...

Greenwald's circular logic of "We're so fierce and independent and anti-authoritarian that we can only hire the most fierce/independent/anti-authoritarian writers, so it's only natural that they rebel and lash out at management" insults everyone's intelligence... He might as well say his anarchist group disbanded because he tried to schedule too many meetings...



Now I at least know they're *really* scared if Greenwald is trying to get in front of the story before New York prints their next expose...He isn't fooling anyone...

The smearing of Taibbi has begun, I see. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #1
Clearly, you did not read the article. Matt comes out looking far better than Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #2
Omidyar and Taibbi Both come out looking bad. Raine1967 Oct 2014 #18
My read of the article is that The Intercept could succeed because Omidyar Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #57
I think you and I are having a different read on this article. Raine1967 Oct 2014 #94
Really this is damage control? From the article.... Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #101
I read that part. Raine1967 Oct 2014 #110
Okay... Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #117
It is notable that Greenwald, Scahill, et al never Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #115
How the hell do you know this? The article also states that they wrote a joint letter Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #122
If you want to believe that, be my guest Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #129
They left the smearing to Gawker, so Greenwald/Omdiyar's hands stay clean: Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #128
did you even read this article? m-lekktor Oct 2014 #4
Yes, I read it all. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #10
Um, those were the allegations from one staffer. Allegations are not proof Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #14
But Greenwald and etc., included the 'allegations' nonetheless. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #32
I sense an immovable rock/irresistible force moment coming on. randome Oct 2014 #39
Well put. All of these folks are worshipped by a certain segment of DU. That will not survive this stevenleser Oct 2014 #42
Taibbi is a writer, an artist, not a manage. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #202
No. Greenwald did not. Another person who did not read the article. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #47
Well, he was downgraded based on them, so what's up with that? This is not a good article for MADem Oct 2014 #55
who could have guessed??? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #99
You think they should have lied by omission? I can just imagine the Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #46
That's the new journalism, I suppose. Allegate without proof. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #70
Greenwald is making no such allegations. A STAFFER DID and the accusations were investigated Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #76
That is Greenwald with his famous weasel words - perfect example that. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #87
You have it precisely backwards. If they were trying to portray Taibbi as the bad man Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #89
CYA, that is what it is. Fakery just so they don't sound TOO viscious. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #93
off topic grasswire Oct 2014 #124
A lot of people don't trust or like Greenwald LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #127
topicing? Okey-doke. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #145
So why is Greenwald taking time out from world-saving to 'report' on office gossip? randome Oct 2014 #150
LOL at Greenwald breaking the irony meter: Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #107
The article tells us what Matt has to say. I saw no smear in the article, if I did I would be the sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #154
Please read the article. Posts based on mere assumptions about what articles say JDPriestly Nov 2014 #201
Awww, it's so sad to find out that " anti-authoritarian iconoclasts" frazzled Oct 2014 #3
I did not post this so people could come here to bash Matt. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #7
You're being authoritarian, then frazzled Oct 2014 #9
Never suggested any restrictions. Simply stating MY opinion. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #13
Interesting. That is my general impression of his approach to journalism in a nutshell. stevenleser Oct 2014 #11
Wow. And The Nation published it? No vetting? MADem Oct 2014 #23
Yep. L.A. posted the link below. Seen in the context of what frazzled wrote, it reads as a fake stevenleser Oct 2014 #35
He's had serious (heroin) substance abuse issues in the past. MADem Oct 2014 #72
I found the article, It is a hoot and very insightful into the character of both Clark Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #26
It wasn't the Clark campaign frazzled Oct 2014 #30
See my #35 above. From your reports it's pretty obvious what Taibbi seems to be about. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #36
He clearly states that it was a meet-up. But he also writes about the Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #50
Seems kinda gotcha and mocking to me...nt MADem Oct 2014 #74
World-class assholes farting on each other. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #5
Wow. Maedhros Oct 2014 #21
MohRokTah, aka Functioning Cog, aka Pretzel Warrior deserves more than to be ignored. nt Electric Monk Oct 2014 #24
Is there a history lesson in there somewhere? :-) n/t seaglass Oct 2014 #28
Jury results Aerows Oct 2014 #37
99% of my posts are anti-McConnell and people want me banned? Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #41
Basement turtles don't often get their nails clipped. randome Oct 2014 #44
What a rude thing to say. Aerows Oct 2014 #69
That was a McConnell joke, you, you...nice person, you. randome Oct 2014 #149
It's amazing how many people don't realize that one of the most powerful people in Congress MADem Oct 2014 #161
What more need be said? randome Oct 2014 #166
lol LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #78
I'd rather be a "basement turtle" Aerows Oct 2014 #111
That's nice LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #114
It's honest. n/t Aerows Oct 2014 #126
Whatever you are implying Aerows Oct 2014 #61
"batshit crazy Republicans underground" Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #64
We are Democrats Aerows Oct 2014 #67
+1,000 malaise Oct 2014 #162
"batshit crazy Republicans underground" Pfft! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #207
Nah. Those types love the negative attention. Maedhros Oct 2014 #60
I truly do not get it. Aerows Oct 2014 #63
Their lives are empty and shallow. Maedhros Oct 2014 #103
That Piece of Shit Salesman article was really stirring the shit... LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #174
Question is Puglover Oct 2014 #187
I thought that was a fair question and wonder if that poster consistently applies LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #191
Of course. Puglover Oct 2014 #195
not by me....UNignored! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #106
I wanna know a lot more about this, from all sides of the issue. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #6
Me too. Cleita Oct 2014 #58
Google is reporting everyone's POV save Taibbi's. He has not yet commented. nt MADem Oct 2014 #144
i still can't figure out what exactly the problem was JI7 Oct 2014 #8
I think if you research Taibbi's history with The eXile, it may give some insight stevenleser Oct 2014 #16
i see JI7 Oct 2014 #17
Well, I hate to defend any of this bunch because I think all of their practices are questionable... stevenleser Oct 2014 #27
"they could be mean, sexist, drunk, stoned". Sounds an awful lot like FOX, nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #82
No, it doesnt. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #90
Greenwald isn't an employee anymore. I find that telling that he and Poitras became MADem Oct 2014 #20
He never was an employee. They CHOSE to be independent contractors. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #40
Well, Taibbi was given an option too--he just didn't "opt" to take it. MADem Oct 2014 #79
Where oh where did you come up with that "fact." Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #83
You have no clue either--so stop pretending you do. I don't think I am the only one who MADem Oct 2014 #119
Greenwald, when he signed on to the Guardian insisted that, in part, his work be reader supported Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #153
A new managing editor was hired in September, Taibbi was out in October. MADem Oct 2014 #159
Oops! That's gonna leave a mark. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #230
I hope independents also don't have non disclosure or non disparage agreements. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #80
I wouldn't be surprised if Taibbi didn't care, or found a way to have a surrogate tell his story. MADem Oct 2014 #147
Yep, I knew it. See this other OP, Taibbi created a hostile environ for a female employee stevenleser Oct 2014 #66
This is looking more and more like tabloid stuff going on over at 'First Look' Raine1967 Oct 2014 #100
Speaking as an old anti-authoritarian iconoclast... Octafish Oct 2014 #12
re: Help Wanted Electric Monk Oct 2014 #22
would it be appropriate to compare Taibbi to Olbermann? nt grasswire Oct 2014 #133
Ah, yes...The corporate ass-covering press release... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #15
"He might as well say his anarchist group disbanded because he tried to schedule too many meetings." randome Oct 2014 #25
What's with all the people posting here who apparently didn't actually read the article? Hissyspit Oct 2014 #175
Because it's not an article, it's a press release to get their story out first Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #186
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Oct 2014 #196
Uh oh---that reads like MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY..... MADem Oct 2014 #19
DU better remember those four names at the top throwing Taibbi under the bus Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #29
Don't hold your breath, and don't expect anyone to tell you of your good judgment when MADem Oct 2014 #33
Um no, they are reporting the events as they happened... I notice that you did not Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #43
Yeah--"None of us witnessed it, but that didn't stop us from gleefully reporting the accusations in MADem Oct 2014 #52
And if they hadn't reported it and some other publication had, you would have bashed Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #62
This is an ARTFULLY constructed piece--it purports to show "both sides" but it doesn't. MADem Oct 2014 #71
You are the one who is painting Taibbi as a miserable sexist pig. That is a characterization Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #75
Where would I get such an idea? From Greenwald, Poitras, etc., that's who. MADem Oct 2014 #85
Yes. They shoved him under the bus that is why they added this update. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #88
Where's the link? A snip out of context doesn't give us the full picture. MADem Oct 2014 #98
In my OP. He's not calling John Cook an asshole. John Cook is the Editor-in-chief of Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #108
Management of FIRST LOOK is a new guy, brought in a month before Taibbi quit. MADem Oct 2014 #169
When Taibbi speaks, we'll know. The New Yorker is calling his departure "abrupt." MADem Oct 2014 #113
Gawker already did, so you're right. deurbano Oct 2014 #91
The article asks Taibbi to respond to a "When did you stop beating your wife?" type charge. MADem Oct 2014 #123
No it does not. It accurately reports that an accusation was made and Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #130
You're the only one who sees it that way. Everyone else sees it as a hit piece. MADem Oct 2014 #135
Um no. He specifically stated he is grieving for the Racket. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #136
Well, he should be--looks like he killed it, or his boss did! MADem Oct 2014 #141
Yes. The usual gaggle sees it as a hit piece. And apparently the usual gaggle Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #137
That's a cheap shot, you know. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a "usual gaggle" of some sort. MADem Oct 2014 #142
Really. Where did you get fired? It's not in the article. The article clearly states he walked Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #143
I read between the lines. We'll know what the deal was when Taibbi speaks--and he hasn't, yet. MADem Oct 2014 #146
"Gaggle"? You mean like the Tiger Beat crowd? Could they not be considered a "usual gaggle"? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #232
Um no,they selectively reported on The Intercept's article. They drew conclusions not Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #151
"Reporting" and "Pre-emptive press release" seem a lot alike Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #131
Of course you have. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #134
You want my PRSA membership number? Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #138
No. I don't want to know anything about your real life. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #139
It's cool...I just don't like my credentials being doubted... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #140
I took all three of them leftynyc Oct 2014 #31
There are FOUR "independent contractors" who wrote this (hit) piece. MADem Oct 2014 #34
What makes you think that John Cook is an independent contractor? Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #45
Because everyone else is--you think he's not? MADem Oct 2014 #48
Who is everyone else? Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #53
Did you read the article? MADem Oct 2014 #65
There are a lot more than 3 people working for First Look. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #84
These are the people that the fans know, though. The first two, especially. MADem Oct 2014 #92
From my point of view, it is Omidyar who comes off as a shit head and I stated that Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #96
Looks like he is out of work... MADem Oct 2014 #109
Matt was the only one leftynyc Oct 2014 #54
Did he burn bridges on the way out of there? I don't remember. nt MADem Oct 2014 #56
I don't remember but leftynyc Oct 2014 #59
Here--no need, I shouldn't have been lazy, it was an easy find. MADem Oct 2014 #68
He was smart leftynyc Oct 2014 #158
I learned from a lot of smart people to be nice to folks on the way up, MADem Oct 2014 #160
Excellent turn of phrase leftynyc Oct 2014 #167
A lot of people are weighing in on this matter-- reporters on twitter, plus there are a lot MADem Oct 2014 #168
I saw some of the twitter stuff leftynyc Oct 2014 #170
"I'll honestly never understand the worship of Greenwald around here." randome Oct 2014 #171
Well, that's a depressing thought leftynyc Oct 2014 #173
It does seem like a death match over there--I think the Racket franchise might be in trouble. MADem Oct 2014 #179
That's hilarious leftynyc Oct 2014 #180
Really? You took that as a hit piece? Over and over again Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #38
The article calls Matt an abusive, sexist angry flake who was regarded as too volatile to manage the MADem Oct 2014 #49
No the article does not CALL Matt anything. They are REPORTING the accusations. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #51
No--they are CALLING him those things. How can they "report" what they haven't seen? MADem Oct 2014 #77
Update from The Intercept Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #81
You keep posting that--that guy is outta work, per his twitter feed. nt MADem Oct 2014 #121
You expected otherwise? With Matt gone, the entire division was at risk of closure. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #125
Maybe Salon will take HIM back...or Wonkette... nt MADem Oct 2014 #132
Well, there's the billionaire's side of the story...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #73
Yes. From the article Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #86
GG likes being top dog so MT goes under the bus! zappaman Oct 2014 #95
From the article (another person who did not read it.) Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #97
Read it. zappaman Oct 2014 #102
Greenwald, et. al., appended it to the article THEY had written... Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #104
Bwah-hah when a Patron buys stuff, he expects his knickknacks to sit prettily on the shelf!1 UTUSN Oct 2014 #105
You got it in one, I think. MADem Oct 2014 #163
sadly, this thread has become badly polluted navarth Oct 2014 #112
Has it ever! And yes, I will continue to read them as well. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #118
I am seeing only 8 posts. Maedhros Oct 2014 #155
No, it hasn't. Google Taibbi's name and do some reading. MADem Oct 2014 #164
Yes, it has. Don't tell me what to do. navarth Oct 2014 #177
No, it hasn't--and no one is telling you to not read the writers you have listed. Not one person. MADem Oct 2014 #178
'victimization effort' navarth Oct 2014 #181
You indicated that you were being constrained from accomplishing an action, when that was not MADem Nov 2014 #200
So do we ever hear Taibbi's side? Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #116
I'm sure we will. This article was a preemptive strike. The first blow in the battle. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #120
From Pando: LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #148
"These simmering problems came to a head this month when a Racket staffer complained Cha Oct 2014 #156
"Matt Taibbi Is Out at First Look Media and That’s a Good Thing (Updated x2)" Cha Oct 2014 #157
Be funny as hell if Snowden turned out to be an NSA 'asset,' along with Greenwald. MADem Oct 2014 #165
Daily Banter is not a legitimate source. grasswire Nov 2014 #203
''So stop citing it!'' My, how anti-authoritarian. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #209
I'll cite it all I damn well please, mr authoritarian.. I trust that source a hellava lot more Cha Nov 2014 #211
Good. It struck me as a bad fit Warpy Oct 2014 #152
I've been routinely checking the "First Look" site for as long as it has been up. Vinca Oct 2014 #172
First Look staffers finally admit Omidyar massively interfered with editorial Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #176
Next up: Edward Snowden, editor-in-chief! randome Oct 2014 #182
Snowden can just Skype for staff meetings like Greenwald does Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #184
Pando is a mess itself. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #198
what the hell is Pando? grasswire Nov 2014 #204
Hire free spirited, fearless, outspoken truthtellers, and then try to control what they say and do. Zorra Oct 2014 #183
Taibbi returns to Rolling Stone, promises "big story" in next issue Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #185
The new "managing editor" came onboard in September. MADem Oct 2014 #192
The Giant, Ridiculous Soap Opera That Is Matt Taibbi’s Departure from First Look Media Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #188
Pareene came from SALON by way of Wonkette...maybe he can get back there? MADem Oct 2014 #193
come on..........Daily Banter??? grasswire Nov 2014 #205
Slugfest Over Taibbi Exodus From First Look Fails to Address Editorial Meddling Doubts Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #189
Crawling from the wreckage: Looks like Pierre Omidyar drove his fancy $250 million blog empire into Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #190
Holy SHIT, indeed--I guess the polluters were right. MADem Oct 2014 #194
Hit piece. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #197
Absolutely--that's what most of the "polluters" have been saying. MADem Nov 2014 #199
there seem to be quite a few hit pieces out there right now. grasswire Nov 2014 #206
And there are a few articles calling out this Greenwald et. al. opus as a hit piece. MADem Nov 2014 #210
Pando has been posting nothing but hit pieces about First Look for quite a while. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #212
Pando's hitting everyone in that article, though. nt MADem Nov 2014 #215
People who live in glass houses... Hissyspit Nov 2014 #218
Well, who lived in a bigger "glass house" than Matt Taibbi? MADem Nov 2014 #221
This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Nov 2014 #208
And now the REAL story comes out... Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #213
Everybody sucks, except Matt Taibbi Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #214
Pando especially sucks: Hissyspit Nov 2014 #219
And Greenwald gave them a lot of shit for it... Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #220
It's not turnabout. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #222
Of course, because Taibbi isn't the real story here Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #227
BullsEYE. That's it, exactly. And that's the Big Story. nt MADem Nov 2014 #231
Does anybody still want to believe Glenn Greenwald is still some kind of renegade outsider? Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #216
Anybody who really got suspicious would wonder if he's some kind of ... well ... asset. MADem Nov 2014 #223
Or not. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #224
Well, he's locked in a marriage of commerce with a hyper-controlling boss who MADem Nov 2014 #225
No they won't. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #226
You're, of course, entitled to your opinion. MADem Nov 2014 #229
Revenge of the Interceptors: Oligarch's Team Mugs Renegade Taibbi Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #217
Good read, all makes good sense. K&R LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #228
"Greenwald spewed out a very nasty, petty, personal smear -- an outright lie..." Cha Nov 2014 #233
"I know for a fact that Greenwald will tell lies -- knowing, demonstrable falsehoods-- to blacken.." Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #234
Stanford University working with First Look Media on management Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #235
Ah, yes-Stanford University, home of Prof. Condi Rice and the Hoover Institution, which MADem Nov 2014 #236
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