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Lee-Lee

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14. So then accept that more outcome like this will occur

Fri Oct 31, 2014, 06:44 AM

Oct 2014

There is no magic solution that protects society and also doesn't infringe at all on the freedoms of those with a demonstrated potential to be violent.

Family members were seeing how bad it was and telling her to call the police- so the warning signs were there.

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Farmingdale Mom Beheading Story, New details. Son Could Not Find A Doctor To Take Medicaid [View all] UglyGreed Oct 2014 OP

I changed UglyGreed Oct 2014 #1

I actually clicked through because of the new headline Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #28

Glad I am not the only one joeglow3 Oct 2014 #34

I put UglyGreed Nov 2014 #61

I like the change Kalidurga Oct 2014 #2

Did you notice this point the woman's brother made? tblue37 Oct 2014 #3

Good catch. nt WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #4

This is less about the police and more about her typical family member denial Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #6

lol. Bad outcomes, like death? eom MyNameGoesHere Oct 2014 #12

Or beheading mom? eom Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #13

Because that happens every day? kcr Nov 2014 #65

And you think the parents have not had encounters with the police? Demeter Oct 2014 #17

And sometimes the person is off the meds and the family is trying to get help. CBHagman Oct 2014 #18

And there is a case of negligence by caregivers Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #23

This was an adult, and he traveled alone. CBHagman Nov 2014 #69

Trying to get help that isn't there isn't living in denial. nt Sivafae Oct 2014 #25

What are the warning signs? mahina Oct 2014 #33

It is ALL about the police because unfortunately there is no alternative if you need to get someone bettyellen Oct 2014 #35

Waiting will just make things worse Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #38

LOL, you actually think the police will take in someone who is calm? Nope. Or that you can get some bettyellen Oct 2014 #48

I've been there, done that Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #50

Maybe You Live RobinA Oct 2014 #57

Well, PA is backwards in many ways (I know, I live here now, after living in many other states). MH1 Nov 2014 #63

I don't know anything about who you are or your life's circumstances but I KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #36

Because when I was a deputy I was the once called to clean up the mess Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #37

"Families are to blame . . . " - you see, that phrasing says a lot right there. Is there KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #41

Your family sounds like the rare exception Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #45

That's my point. We were the 'rare exception' not because we were geniuses or KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #51

The lack of empathy as you point out Rex Oct 2014 #54

Yup. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #59

"Tiny Percentage"? Ash_F Oct 2014 #39

Police interact with thousands of mentally ill people every day Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #40

I've seen it go bad. Ash_F Oct 2014 #42

Exactly - people don't realize how media works, so it is not "tiny percentage" MH1 Nov 2014 #64

The Mentally Ill RobinA Oct 2014 #55

She was terrified for good cause theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #19

Not really, you are letting the sensationalist media sway you Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #22

Even worse, cops are never wrong about anything! Rex Oct 2014 #56

I don't' think this should be used as another police bashing opportunity treestar Oct 2014 #24

OTT? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #30

But but but...cops are never wrong or break the law! Rex Oct 2014 #58

sadly, her fear was legitimate ): etherealtruth Oct 2014 #60

I know I am going to make people mad for saying this Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #5

And how was anyone to know that he was only days away from beheading his mother? cali Oct 2014 #7

Clearly he was under treatment Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #8

that is largely a crap solution. cali Oct 2014 #9

So then accept that more outcome like this will occur Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #14

Sometimes the meds prescribed by particular doctors are the worst choice meds. DebJ Oct 2014 #11

Medications help schizophrenic people function in society. Ilsa Oct 2014 #10

Did I say everybody? Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #15

This case doesn't fit your paradigm either. Ilsa Oct 2014 #29

I family members were urging her to go to police Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #32

Abruptly stopping some psychiatric drugs can result in dangerous side-effects HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #20

Exactly! Quackers Oct 2014 #31

That's great about supplies to taper off...do you think people generally know HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #52

We only know that he was violent post-facto. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #68

What a tragic, depressing story deutsey Oct 2014 #16

USA medical care system sucks. Even with family trying to help, persons in desperate need are exclud Sunlei Oct 2014 #21

The problem is families have no support system for the mentally ill. Tatiana Oct 2014 #26

If he'd shot her, this would be a gun thread, instead of what it should be: a mental illness thread. Brickbat Oct 2014 #27

Umm. And? hunter Oct 2014 #46

Irony: the US Healthcare system is terminally ill. nt Zorra Oct 2014 #43

Sounds like psychosis from withdrawal. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #44

I'm dysfunctional without psych meds. hunter Oct 2014 #49

spoken like someone with no clue fizzgig Oct 2014 #53

This is a problem with Medicaid and, to a lesser extent, Medicare joeglow3 Oct 2014 #47

Catch-22 Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #62

Spot on UglyGreed Nov 2014 #66

He's still good Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #67

She did find a doctor but she and her son couldn't wait 2 days. She should have called 911. n/t pnwmom Nov 2014 #70