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Lee-Lee

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38. Waiting will just make things worse

Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:03 PM

Oct 2014

They should call and say they have a family member who needs help, and ask to make an appointment to bring him in.

Then do it in a controlled, planned environment and circumstance.

If they keep waiting what will likely happen is he ends up violent, they get at thier wits end, they call the cops who show up when he is at his worst and things are far, far more likely to end up ending poorly.

Anyone telling them to not call and avoid getting him help is a fool giving advice that will just end badly. His problems won't self correct, so eventually he probably will have the cops called. Smart thing to do is make it happen soon, when he is not at his worst, in a planned and controlled environment.

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Farmingdale Mom Beheading Story, New details. Son Could Not Find A Doctor To Take Medicaid [View all] UglyGreed Oct 2014 OP

I changed UglyGreed Oct 2014 #1

I actually clicked through because of the new headline Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #28

Glad I am not the only one joeglow3 Oct 2014 #34

I put UglyGreed Nov 2014 #61

I like the change Kalidurga Oct 2014 #2

Did you notice this point the woman's brother made? tblue37 Oct 2014 #3

Good catch. nt WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #4

This is less about the police and more about her typical family member denial Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #6

lol. Bad outcomes, like death? eom MyNameGoesHere Oct 2014 #12

Or beheading mom? eom Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #13

Because that happens every day? kcr Nov 2014 #65

And you think the parents have not had encounters with the police? Demeter Oct 2014 #17

And sometimes the person is off the meds and the family is trying to get help. CBHagman Oct 2014 #18

And there is a case of negligence by caregivers Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #23

This was an adult, and he traveled alone. CBHagman Nov 2014 #69

Trying to get help that isn't there isn't living in denial. nt Sivafae Oct 2014 #25

What are the warning signs? mahina Oct 2014 #33

It is ALL about the police because unfortunately there is no alternative if you need to get someone bettyellen Oct 2014 #35

Waiting will just make things worse Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #38

LOL, you actually think the police will take in someone who is calm? Nope. Or that you can get some bettyellen Oct 2014 #48

I've been there, done that Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #50

Maybe You Live RobinA Oct 2014 #57

Well, PA is backwards in many ways (I know, I live here now, after living in many other states). MH1 Nov 2014 #63

I don't know anything about who you are or your life's circumstances but I KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #36

Because when I was a deputy I was the once called to clean up the mess Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #37

"Families are to blame . . . " - you see, that phrasing says a lot right there. Is there KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #41

Your family sounds like the rare exception Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #45

That's my point. We were the 'rare exception' not because we were geniuses or KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #51

The lack of empathy as you point out Rex Oct 2014 #54

Yup. RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #59

"Tiny Percentage"? Ash_F Oct 2014 #39

Police interact with thousands of mentally ill people every day Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #40

I've seen it go bad. Ash_F Oct 2014 #42

Exactly - people don't realize how media works, so it is not "tiny percentage" MH1 Nov 2014 #64

The Mentally Ill RobinA Oct 2014 #55

She was terrified for good cause theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #19

Not really, you are letting the sensationalist media sway you Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #22

Even worse, cops are never wrong about anything! Rex Oct 2014 #56

I don't' think this should be used as another police bashing opportunity treestar Oct 2014 #24

OTT? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #30

But but but...cops are never wrong or break the law! Rex Oct 2014 #58

sadly, her fear was legitimate ): etherealtruth Oct 2014 #60

I know I am going to make people mad for saying this Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #5

And how was anyone to know that he was only days away from beheading his mother? cali Oct 2014 #7

Clearly he was under treatment Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #8

that is largely a crap solution. cali Oct 2014 #9

So then accept that more outcome like this will occur Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #14

Sometimes the meds prescribed by particular doctors are the worst choice meds. DebJ Oct 2014 #11

Medications help schizophrenic people function in society. Ilsa Oct 2014 #10

Did I say everybody? Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #15

This case doesn't fit your paradigm either. Ilsa Oct 2014 #29

I family members were urging her to go to police Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #32

Abruptly stopping some psychiatric drugs can result in dangerous side-effects HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #20

Exactly! Quackers Oct 2014 #31

That's great about supplies to taper off...do you think people generally know HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #52

We only know that he was violent post-facto. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #68

What a tragic, depressing story deutsey Oct 2014 #16

USA medical care system sucks. Even with family trying to help, persons in desperate need are exclud Sunlei Oct 2014 #21

The problem is families have no support system for the mentally ill. Tatiana Oct 2014 #26

If he'd shot her, this would be a gun thread, instead of what it should be: a mental illness thread. Brickbat Oct 2014 #27

Umm. And? hunter Oct 2014 #46

Irony: the US Healthcare system is terminally ill. nt Zorra Oct 2014 #43

Sounds like psychosis from withdrawal. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #44

I'm dysfunctional without psych meds. hunter Oct 2014 #49

spoken like someone with no clue fizzgig Oct 2014 #53

This is a problem with Medicaid and, to a lesser extent, Medicare joeglow3 Oct 2014 #47

Catch-22 Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #62

Spot on UglyGreed Nov 2014 #66

He's still good Shankapotomus Nov 2014 #67

She did find a doctor but she and her son couldn't wait 2 days. She should have called 911. n/t pnwmom Nov 2014 #70