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merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Have you one picked one up yet?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:13 PM
Oct 2014

I have thought about this a lot. For one thing, picking up torches and pitchforks usually results in someone dying. Actually, a lot less than that. (Kent State.)

Things have to be pretty bad when death is a risk a civilian will take. Things had been very bad for that guy in Tunisia who self immolated over a few dollars that would have made the difference between his family eating that day or not, and not just very bad on that one day. That had been his life for a while and arbitrary and cruel police had made him give up all hope of improvement. Things have not been that bad in the US, at least not yet.

Besides, most of us believe we actually live in a democracy controlled by voting. As long as people cling to that illusion, they will not run out of hope that, if they only figure out how to do XYZ, things will get better. Either that, or they think "better" is impossible, anymore, no matter what. (New normal). So, what's the point?

The French court was in Versaille and the revolutionaries easily overcame the palace guard. Ditto the Tsar's security force. Wanna test what would happen if a mob tried to rush city hall, or a state house, or the White House? Or even David Koch's house?

Pitchforks don't do a lot against today's weapons--and we KNOW the militarized cops and the military will use today's weapons on us, if push comes to shove. We know that because they'ved used them on us, even if push wasn't within shouting distance of shove.

Russian revolutions failed until World War I convinced the Russian military to join the peasants. Notice any organized effort on the part of the left to win over cops and the military? And, with all the carefully cultivated and nurtured divisiveness between left and right, how do you think that effort would go, given that cops and military tend to lean right these days--firefighters, too. Their unions lean left, but the union members lean right.

The geography of the US is not conducive to organizing and massing across the nation. And, if we try, the NSA will make sure it's nipped it in the bud.


Etc.

Oh, and the only people unarmed and clueless about weapons will be most of the left, including me. That's okay for me because I would never try to hurt anyone anyway. Non violent bleeding heart liberal all the way. I couldn't live with myself.

My only equipment would be defensive. Then again, I keep talking about buying a bulletproof vest and I have not even done that yet.

The Shawshank Redemption. merrily Oct 2014 #1
first thing that popped into my mind, too. mopinko Oct 2014 #13
We don't seem to be a society that cares about such things, at least not merrily Oct 2014 #16
tru dat. mopinko Oct 2014 #18
Have you one picked one up yet? merrily Oct 2014 #20
America needs a socialist government. We need to find and run candidates who will work toward Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #30
Okay. As you no doubt know, some baby steps have worked. However, that is going to be a long road, merrily Nov 2014 #41
The culling of the herd is already planned hifiguy Oct 2014 #22
Fewer people = less global warming. Win win. merrily Oct 2014 #24
Me too! <nt> garf Oct 2014 #35
Here's why: Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #2
! xchrom Oct 2014 #3
What did they think would happen? SoCalDem Oct 2014 #4
What? You expect thinking? daleanime Oct 2014 #7
IMO this is the result of manditory sentencing or 3 strikes laws azurnoir Oct 2014 #5
The system reaps what it sows... blackspade Oct 2014 #6
End mandatory minimums, support compassionate release. morningfog Oct 2014 #8
Some people deserve Life with no parole. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #12
Some people may justifiably be held for their entire lives, morningfog Oct 2014 #17
Without substituting a "Life without Parole", you'll never get people to give up the death penalty FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #23
The court will end the death penalty in due time. morningfog Oct 2014 #26
Most of the civilized world already has Major Nikon Nov 2014 #40
+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2014 #37
Americans want harsher and harsher penalties; a life sentence for every crime davidn3600 Oct 2014 #9
Keeping those people locked up is going to end up costing a lot of money davidpdx Oct 2014 #10
Whih is exactly why it is not going to end hifiguy Oct 2014 #28
It's not davidpdx Nov 2014 #39
Wasn't everyone upset that the 90 something year old ex Nazi wasn't going to jail last week or so? FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #11
Our sentencing regime is insane alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #14
I really hope it is noted with horror ten years from now. morningfog Oct 2014 #19
Gloria seems to be doing fine now, has her speaking engagements LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #15
She was on a panel? Oh, I'm sure she's set for life. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #33
Our for profit prison system needs to go away permanently. Initech Oct 2014 #21
Bottom line (pun intended): There's lots of profit in keeping granma locked up forever. nt Zorra Oct 2014 #25
It's going to get a lot worse. SheilaT Oct 2014 #27
Anders Breivik only got 21 years nilesobek Oct 2014 #29
Norway must not have anticipated the fact that someone would commit suxh a horrendous crime. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #32
"many prisons may look a lot like nursing homes." KamaAina Oct 2014 #31
I wonder if sometimes it's a case where an elder decides to commit a crime and go to prison - calimary Oct 2014 #34
Why won't it let me access the article? Live and Learn Oct 2014 #36
Sorry, but the scumbag who shot my sister-in-law point blank in the head in front of their two young kath Oct 2014 #38
only gonna get worse dembotoz Nov 2014 #42
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