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jtuck004

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66. I think about it more than you know. But why kowtow to Karl Rove? That's not our only choice. Might
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:18 PM
Oct 2014

find a Democrat to go to war on poverty instead of inflating bankster's pocketbooks with opportunities denied working people.

I don't mean to presume that I know better than you what to be concerned about, and if you want to live your life around K Rove, that's your business.

Seems like it would be more useful, however, instead of spending so much time worrying about what he thinks one might be in working people's homes (where the teabaggers organize, btw) finding out what THEY think. Me, I don't even think of him. I think about my neighbors and how we can find opportunity, since we all know the government that used to protect us now works for the banksters.

Btw - if you think that last paragraph is unsubstantiated, feel free to check out a copy of "Stress Test" by Timothy McVeig...I mean Geithner (I get my killers mixed up - the CDC, police departments, and hospitals have documents listing the reason for suicides and injuries as the very foreclosures that were not prevented, as well as a large number of disabling health issues, because of the actions of the banksters), the last Treasury Secretary - he explains in excruciating detail about how it was necessary to save the banksters at the expense of the lives of millions of people, for their own good. He explains how they came up with the plan and President Obama made the banks take it. For our own good.

Jon Stewart interviewed him about the book: said "The perception is that you went to hell and back for the banks, but not for working people". Geithner tried to spin it another way, but an entire audience of voters laughed - at him.

I would bet Karl Rove watched that and got an even bigger kick at the nationwide audience of voters who watched it with him. He's not reading my comments which are just simple, publicly available information provided by the government and competent authorities.

I suspect he has an autographed copy of the book, from the person appointed by this President.

Some years ago, years I lived through and remember very well, the governments were concerned about action, getting things done, concerned about the people, and worked on solutions. Sure they had to win, but the people knew who was on their side and responded. When the people thought they had been left behind, they went another direction. Just an aside - I bet most of them don't know who this Karl Rove thing is.

Like then...

When Poverty Was the Enemy, Not the Poor Here.


...
It has been 50 years since America launched the War on Poverty. The Economic Opportunity Act and legislation to outlaw racial discrimination were the centerpieces of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s vision to create a Great Society.

Today, rather than a war on poverty, we seem to have a war on the poor. Wealth inequality is growing. State support for education is withering. Social safety-net programs are under attack in Congress. Many Americans believe that if people are poor, it’s their own fault. The only “solution” for poverty that many people advocate is allowing companies to create jobs offering wages too low to support a family.
...
“Dad worked in the coal mines and did other jobs. He was a very hard worker, but he didn’t have an education,” said Darlene Sharp, 61, who was a teenager with six brothers and sisters when the War on Poverty came to Knox County. Her father managed buildings that housed the new educational programs, and her mother got a job at one of the factories West helped create. “A lot of people worked there,” she said. “I’m sure that every one of them was people who had no employment before. Without the programs, there weren’t very many jobs. It helped them be able to take care of their families and meet needs. I know
it helped my family.”

At its core, the War on Poverty was not about a handout, but a hand up. It was about creating economic opportunity and giving poor people the skills and support they needed to take advantage of it. And it was about giving poor people a voice in decisions affecting their lives. A half-century ago, Americans made a commitment to fight a war on poverty, and we could do it again. Creating a society that is more fair, just, and prosperous for everyone is a fight worth winning.
...



I didn't write the plan that left all those people homeless or hungry, and I offer what I can to provide opportunities for others, because I think we all do better when that philosophy is followed. Maybe if more people were concerned about that they could quit obsessing about unimportant people with a serious deficiency in their humanity.


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Only 3 more Ratfucking Days until the Midterms! FSogol Oct 2014 #1
Jury decision... (here is a hint, someone is losing their alert privileges for a little while...) stevenleser Oct 2014 #7
I would have voted the same way for the same reason. nt Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #18
LOL, thanks for posting the results. n/t FSogol Oct 2014 #31
You're welcome! I was juror #3. stevenleser Oct 2014 #33
I would have voted the same way, for the same reason. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #42
Which means that you're calling me a "ratfu$#er" brentspeak Oct 2014 #55
"If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during FSogol Oct 2014 #57
Since it's been Obama who managed to undermine Democratic candidates with brentspeak Oct 2014 #58
I believe this is what he means Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2014 #74
If the shoe fits, wear it. If the shoe is uncomfortable ... 11 Bravo Oct 2014 #85
I am afraid I do not understand ... littlewolf Oct 2014 #62
Some things are just mysteries, and doomed to remain so... PatrickforO Oct 2014 #65
Let me explain. To curb frivolous alerts, the admins instituted a rule, if you alert and the stevenleser Oct 2014 #70
thank you for clearing that up for me. sometimes I feel a bit thick. :D nt littlewolf Oct 2014 #71
No. If an alert results in a 7-0 vote to leave the post, MineralMan Nov 2014 #115
Rats need love too IronLionZion Nov 2014 #95
Wow. The person who issued the alert completely misread the post. DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #98
what is this alert???!!!! heaven05 Nov 2014 #108
" 'Rats' is is what the RW calls Democrats." brentspeak Oct 2014 #10
"Rat fucking" is a political term since at least the Nixon era and has nothing to do with Lee FSogol Oct 2014 #30
I think the term goes back to MIT and, especially, CalTech pranksters hifiguy Oct 2014 #38
Yes, I looked up the slang term 'ratfucking' and according to PatrickforO Oct 2014 #64
Tell us all what the "political dirty trick" here is n/t brentspeak Oct 2014 #92
I first heard the term, shortened to RFing, in the 70s from UCLA fraternities.... DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #99
At least we know who lost their alerting privileges. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #52
Ok, who was it? brentspeak Oct 2014 #59
You Better Believe It! Ikonoklast Oct 2014 #32
I predict that sometime before the weekend ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #43
true. man. mopinko Oct 2014 #50
I like concise posts sharp_stick Oct 2014 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author brentspeak Oct 2014 #93
+1 LadyHawkAZ Oct 2014 #91
Brava. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #96
Yes, we are losing Senate races in red states because Obama is too conservative. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #2
Is Barack Obama running for the Senate in red states? brentspeak Oct 2014 #3
Because Democratic candidates are not losing races for any of the issues you raised. nt Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #4
How would you know that? brentspeak Oct 2014 #6
logic would seem to indicate that.... Takket Oct 2014 #14
You haven't heard the Democratic candidates speak much about how their brentspeak Oct 2014 #17
You did make it clear. Lots of people intentionally misunderstand. Like you, I Nay Oct 2014 #36
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #46
That's all we're hearing in Iowa. justgamma Nov 2014 #118
We are losing the Senate ... Trajan Oct 2014 #5
Nowhere else to go? give me a friggin break randys1 Oct 2014 #28
Joe and Jane read the headlines that banks have made profits larger than any in history. The jtuck004 Oct 2014 #44
Karl Rove gets downright giddy when he sees stuff like this, think about it randys1 Oct 2014 #47
I think about it more than you know. But why kowtow to Karl Rove? That's not our only choice. Might jtuck004 Oct 2014 #66
That's the best come back you have? Many voters are staying home. rhett o rick Oct 2014 #83
Oh jesus, Rove loves your comment even more than the first one... randys1 Oct 2014 #84
Maybe you, jesus, and C. Rove can clean it up. You all seem to be the most interested. n/c jtuck004 Nov 2014 #113
I hope you will consider turning this post into its own thread. It's very poetic and KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #61
Right. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #111
Not to mention that 1/3 of the country are full on hardcore racists......and the vast VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #80
Speaking as someone that's done door knocking and phone banking in a red state, JoeyT Nov 2014 #94
Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #101
What are coming up as the top 20 issues over all in your area? JDPriestly Nov 2014 #114
I'm not sure where you're getting that. JoeyT Nov 2014 #117
Reducing the number of democrats is the best way to punish the president IronLionZion Nov 2014 #97
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #103
We must punish the American people! IronLionZion Nov 2014 #105
Something like that! ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #107
The point is that Democrats win when they focus on key economic issues that favor working people. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #116
Only Nixon could go to China. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #8
Ridiculous OP...it comes down to the people who are actually on the ballot BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #9
"attacked from the left by Karl Rove" brentspeak Oct 2014 #12
Here's what it means BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #13
That link supports the issues raised in my post brentspeak Oct 2014 #15
You really need that explained to you after reading the article? BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #21
Thanks for contributing nothing that makes sense to this discussion. n/t brentspeak Oct 2014 #24
Your link does NOT support your claim. bvar22 Oct 2014 #78
More reading comprehension issues BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #79
Total BS! nt Andy823 Oct 2014 #11
Near as I can tell the GOP hasn't been running on SS reform. nt Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #16
More to the point, the Democrats haven't been running on protecting Social Security brentspeak Oct 2014 #20
Protect it from what? As I noted the GOP isn't running on SS reform. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #26
At least one prominent GOP senate candidate actually is running on SS "reform" brentspeak Oct 2014 #27
And Braley's running ads against all that. justgamma Nov 2014 #119
Retraction please ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #53
They have attacked Democrats for having proposed cuts to SS. Marr Oct 2014 #22
Correct. It's a nonsense OP. I happen to have disagreed with the President publicly on chained CPI stevenleser Oct 2014 #37
Who cares if you disagreed or not with Obama on chained CPI? brentspeak Oct 2014 #45
Actually it doesn't cut benefits catnhatnh Oct 2014 #19
Christ, I can't believe anyone is still trying to sell that garbage. Marr Oct 2014 #23
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #63
Agreed. It was an utter betrayal of the voters and the party. Marr Oct 2014 #25
BS. still_one Oct 2014 #29
Great post, thank you. Broward Oct 2014 #34
I publicly disagreed with the President on this but it is having zero impact on the election stevenleser Oct 2014 #35
Republican lite and there are those that want Obama II with Hillary INdemo Oct 2014 #39
bullfuckingshit! She is to the Left of Obama....about equal to EW....I have shown over and over... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #81
You keep thinking that and when the corporate dollars are tallied INdemo Oct 2014 #87
You keep thinking YOU know something VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #120
I don't know where you are ... staggerleem Oct 2014 #40
Welcome to DU wryter2000 Oct 2014 #68
Thank you, elleng Oct 2014 #76
Many are deep inside a fantasy world where republicans don't exist IronLionZion Nov 2014 #106
Like Governor Wallace said many years ago " there is not a dimes worth of difference between the geretogo Oct 2014 #41
I just KNEW Nader didn't come up with that all by himself! 11 Bravo Oct 2014 #86
Why we need a real Progressive INdemo Oct 2014 #88
With out a doubt . geretogo Nov 2014 #121
GOP have chained CPI in their RSC budget spedtr90 Oct 2014 #48
I'm sorry, but you're mistaking your audience for one that cares about the quality of the MontyPow Oct 2014 #49
Tragically true. blackspade Oct 2014 #51
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/democrats-social-security_b_6071482.html stupidicus Oct 2014 #56
Proof? Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #60
If you removed all of the Democrats that voted for those terrible trade agreements and Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #67
Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2014 #72
his term has been a debacle for the party. The repukes were on the ropes in 2009 Doctor_J Oct 2014 #69
Well said. The people of the country and the world were behind him... polichick Oct 2014 #73
You will never have to vote for President Obama ever again IronLionZion Nov 2014 #100
"remove the corporate Democrats and their flunkies from party leadership" brooklynite Oct 2014 #75
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Oct 2014 #77
The reason Germany and Sweden have strong unions is not a lack of trade or trade agreements. pampango Oct 2014 #82
K&R The hard, cold truth. This is your party on corporate cash. woo me with science Oct 2014 #89
Henry Paulson, Ben Bernanke, Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers, and the band plays on. L0oniX Nov 2014 #112
Yes--Simpson Bowles fucked us over royally in 2010 eridani Oct 2014 #90
Yes, We Do Need To Elect More Middle To Left Democrats... ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #102
It's too late vi5 Nov 2014 #104
Well, - fact is SS benefits are not a top voter priority. maced666 Nov 2014 #109
K&R. Because the perfect example of a Democrat who will make the same mistakes JDPriestly Nov 2014 #110
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