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Orrex

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82. You hang your argument on two GOP rulings?

Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:36 PM

Oct 2014

Sounds like a backhanded way of saying "I don't want to admit that I'm a gun fetishist, but I agree with everything they believe in." The paranoia--and the actual, articulated fear that someone's really going to steal your guns--likewise flows from the gun fetishist mentality.

Those decisions, like quite a few to come out of the Roberts court, march lockstep with GOP dogma, so I'm not inclined to agree with them even if I accept that they're the rule of law.

If you're basing your whole argument on thse two bullshit rulings, then you're in worse shape than I realized.

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NY Magazine: NRA reminds gun-loving voters to fear everything [View all] LiberalElite Oct 2014 OP

Actually, I think the gun-control side are equally guilty of mongering fear, using fear... NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #1

Fuck the NRA and and their endless childish fear mongering. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #8

Defending the 2nd Amd isn't the same as defending the NRA. nt NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #61

Then fuck the NRA and their distortion and twisting of the second amendment? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #62

Where in the 2A does it say "IN a well regulated militia"? GGJohn Oct 2014 #69

I said "fuck the NRA", nothing more, do you agree? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #73

No, you said "in a well regulated militia". GGJohn Oct 2014 #77

Fuck the NRA, in a well regulated milita, better? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #79

I'll go further, screw the NRA and those who sympathize with their promotion of gunz. Hoyt Nov 2014 #102

When are you going to learn to spell? GGJohn Nov 2014 #114

Fuck the NRA TheCowsCameHome Oct 2014 #2

Me too shenmue Oct 2014 #4

Shouldn't that be called shenmue Oct 2014 #3

That's what I thought but maybe it's the most important to them nt LiberalElite Oct 2014 #5

That's probably how they see it shenmue Oct 2014 #6

kick nt flamin lib Oct 2014 #7

wayne is a fucking nutcase. he should be institutionalized. spanone Oct 2014 #9

I believe the 'gun grabbers' are spreading fear and paranoia Jenoch Oct 2014 #10

Your are right about the NRA and their "tiny portion". Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #11

I am also correct about Jenoch Oct 2014 #14

Fact: Jared Lee Loughner savalez Oct 2014 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Oct 2014 #16

Fact: You are wrong. Read carefully. savalez Oct 2014 #19

You're correct, it was the 2nd mag that was found to be faulty. GGJohn Oct 2014 #21

An unarmed elderly lady took him down.. Good guys with guns were of no direct help and indirectly Hoyt Nov 2014 #103

You're a funny guy. GGJohn Nov 2014 #106

Gets you, doesn't it, to think an elderly lady did what all those gunz in your gun safes couldn't? Hoyt Nov 2014 #109

Jesus Christ, when are you going to learn to spell? GGJohn Nov 2014 #110

Yep, he was stopped because his cheap, 33 round, after market magazine jammed. Jenoch Oct 2014 #18

Yes. Those who are unarmed must sit and wait until opportunities beyond their control arise. nt Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #33

Or they can carry guns and delude themselves that they're more in control than they are. Orrex Oct 2014 #58

Like the thousands killed or maimed each year? alarimer Oct 2014 #56

"gun grabbers"? savalez Oct 2014 #20

I have never been a member of the NRA. Jenoch Oct 2014 #22

Apparently you don't like the term. Perhaps this would be an excellent opportunity to Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #34

Given the Penis� talk, grabbing takes on new meaning! Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #38

Doesn't work that way. Orrex Oct 2014 #46

I own a gun. That does not make me a gun fetishist. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #50

Let's unpack that a bit. Orrex Oct 2014 #53

"the intent is to equate such mythical people with anyone who...proposes sensible gun legislation" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #54

Why not do a poll and see who's willing to out themselves? badtoworse Oct 2014 #55

Citation, please. Orrex Oct 2014 #57

How about you? Do you support the RKBA? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #59

I support the 2nd Amendment as written Orrex Oct 2014 #72

"as written" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #74

And accurate. Orrex Oct 2014 #80

I can't help but think "as written" is a back-handed way of saying, Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #81

You hang your argument on two GOP rulings? Orrex Oct 2014 #82

I guess you imagine you get to unilaterally decide what is law. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #84

As is typical for you, you misstate my position. Orrex Oct 2014 #85

I'm trying to square your double-talk. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #86

Think "Citizen's Councils", and you'll understand the mindset friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #88

It's not double-talk. That's an ad hominem. Orrex Oct 2014 #89

The 2A -- as written -- says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #95

"Someone who embraces the tenets of full-blown gun fetishism..." friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #87

As stated above, it requires no authority to point out the obvious. Orrex Oct 2014 #90

I see you're going with the 'ipse dixit'. Always a favorite choice... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #91

I've made no such claims beyond fairly obvious observations of what's been posted Orrex Oct 2014 #92

You have offered no argument beyond "I declare this to be so. It's obvious" friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #93

I'm sure that your postings pass for clever among gun fetishists Orrex Oct 2014 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #97

That's the spirit! All that bafflegab ill-suited you. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #101

"it requires no authority to point out the obvious." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #96

Citation, please. Orrex Nov 2014 #98

Why? Is declaring something "obvious" somehow exclusive to you? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #99

You keep referring to me as a gun fetishist. You were called on it and asked to show your Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #104

No, no, and wrong Orrex Nov 2014 #105

"...what I would identify..." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #107

I gave an explicit definition in reply #55 Orrex Nov 2014 #111

Post #55 was made by DU'er BadToWorse. Perhaps you meant Post #53 Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #112

Gun control advocacy seems to attract self-proclaimed 'remote sensors' friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #115

How is it "remote?" Orrex Nov 2014 #117

'Remote' as in you haven't been able to detect that *I don't own a gun*... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #120

I have never claimed that you own a gun, nor I have claimed to diagnose psychoses Orrex Nov 2014 #121

Did you type that headline with a straight face? If so, I'd hate to sit across a poker table... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #123

"bullshit demand for "telepsychology" credentials" Can you also kill goats with your mind? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #113

See, there's another of your ad hominem attacks in place of argument Orrex Nov 2014 #116

I'm volleying back what I've been served. If you don't care for it, you are free to... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #118

Another straw man Orrex Nov 2014 #119

Being ignored by someone who claims that a person that does not own a gun... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #122

It also requires no authority to point out that certain posters get a might testy... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #100

Gee, I wonder where the term "gun grabber" came from... beevul Nov 2014 #125

Bookmarking. Mind if I employ your bag of hammers the next time the complaint arises? nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #127

Feel free. beevul Nov 2014 #128

FTNRA Tom Ripley Oct 2014 #12

It's Working In CO otohara Oct 2014 #13

Hickenlooper might still shortly be on he way out, branford Oct 2014 #23

What Missteps? otohara Oct 2014 #24

Misstep being that no debate was allowed on those bills, GGJohn Oct 2014 #25

His magazine limit and assault weapon legislation was very unpopular, branford Oct 2014 #26

It also led to companies like Magpul moving their businesses out of state with the resulting GGJohn Oct 2014 #27

Oh Boo Hoo - 10,000 New Jobs Marijuana otohara Oct 2014 #64

There were also support businesses that supplied the materials to Magpul, GGJohn Oct 2014 #66

Whole Industries Are Gone otohara Oct 2014 #67

All those are still in exisistence, just not in the sheer numbers of days gone by. GGJohn Oct 2014 #68

No One Forced Them To Move otohara Oct 2014 #70

After CO legislatures passed a do nothing bill. GGJohn Oct 2014 #71

Crime Is Down in CO by 11% otohara Oct 2014 #76

Which has ZERO to do with the mag limit law, GGJohn Oct 2014 #78

Blah, Blah, Blah otohara Oct 2014 #28

Your "blah, blah, blah" attitude may result in the Republicans taking control branford Oct 2014 #29

And the response was to pass junk laws... beevul Oct 2014 #32

You're claiming victory for a magazine capacity law the sheriffs have said cannot and will not Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #35

Promise me: Don't hire on as campaign manager. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #39

What's that noise? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #41

The NRA is now the GMW. Archae Oct 2014 #17

On January 20, 2017, the nation's gun dealers will go into a state of mourning jmowreader Oct 2014 #30

The Declaration of Independence has something . . No one has a right to infringe on my leanforward Oct 2014 #31

No one is infringing on your right. You're choosing to be afraid of people who have no interest in Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #36

By that logic, since I have a deep seated but irrational fear of clowns... Oktober Oct 2014 #37

Or hanging round folks who have eaten enchiladas. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #40

Absolutely an infringement on my happiness... Oktober Oct 2014 #48

Yes they are, in a civil society. leanforward Oct 2014 #83

Especially Obama.. he's coming to take your guns.. you gullible suckers. Cha Oct 2014 #42

Gullibility is pushing gun-control culture war... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #43

Precisely. beevul Nov 2014 #129

Worry not...Hillary will be even better for gun manufacturers and sellers aikoaiko Oct 2014 #44

You think? I've read the gun manufacturers' profits went through the roof when Obama became Cha Oct 2014 #45

Yes, Hillary has an even longer record with voting for increased gun restrictions aikoaiko Oct 2014 #47

Gun-control seems lodged into 3rd-Way politics... Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #51

Coumo and NY's gun laws made Remington decide to expand production elsewhere Lurks Often Oct 2014 #52

Islamic radicals don't scare me from an RKBA standpoint badtoworse Oct 2014 #49

Unlocking In_The_Wind Oct 2014 #60

What do gun owners have to fear. ileus Oct 2014 #63

K and R etherealtruth Oct 2014 #65

That's what the GOP is all about. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #75

Exactly, the NRA is yet another right wing group etherealtruth Nov 2014 #108

NRA = National Republican Armory friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #124

holy crap Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #126