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In reply to the discussion: What will the Warren Presidency look like? [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)To be truthful whatever unwarranted extra criticism *is* coming from certain sections of the Left, against President O.....it ain't got a damn fuckin' thing to do with his skin color. And I'm one of the most sympathetic people to Obama that you'll find on this board for the most part, not to mention that I've been a longtime fan of Senator Warren as well.
My friend, if you truly *need* to say something about faux-liberals, they DO exist. But these aren't the droids you're looking for(apologies to George Lucas!). Nope. Here's a basic guide of some of the things to look for, down below-
Faux-liberals may, or may not believe, amongst other things:
1.)That America can never really do any good in the world.
2.)That F.D.R. was a secretly closeted hardcore "racist progressive" who actually willingly shat on black people, and that the New Deal was a throughly Southern racist creation, etc.(no kidding! I've actually seen the latter pushed, at least, on a few occasions)
3.)That only white people can be racist(people such as Louis Farrakhan, Ayo Kimathi, etc. not withstanding), and/or that ALL white people are inherently racist.
4.)That certain cliques of people should be allowed to completely and totally dominate the terms of discourse when it comes to conversations, ethnic/racial, religious, etc. issues, and that only they have that right, and that no one else outside their clique should be able to contribute without their complete approval.
5.)That all men share culpability for the problems with misogyny and other forms of sexism.
6.)That anyone who may be religious or spiritual is a fool and a moron, or a Young Earth Creationist, etc.
7.)Pretty much any form of historical revisionism that may be popular in certain fringe-left circles(such as Gerald Horne's "The Counter-Revolution of 1776", or Ira Katznelson's "Fear Itself: The New Deal and the Origins of Our Time", etc.).
That's only just a few pointers, too, btw.
In short, while your concerns are admirable, you're still barking up the wrong tree in that regard.
On the other hand, it is unfortunate, indeed, that otherwise informed genuine liberals are indeed being misled into believing the myths of Obama being a "Reagan lite"
he's really not, not socially!), beholden to corporate interests(again, no), and certain other things. To be truthful, though, whenever we DO need to point things out, we need to be accurate in identifying & describing the problem.
As much as I may disagree with some of the hardcore critics of Obama on the Left, to say that even ANY of that, to any significant degree, is motivated by race, or more specifically, anti-black racism, is honestly not only inaccurate, but even fallacious; because, as pretty much anyone with a basic understanding knows, the two sides are *NOT* equal(at all!). One side has a major problem with racists, misogynists and other bigots on the whole, and the other side only has a few individual problem people(whose ass-backwards attitudes are largely condemned by their fellows). Guess which side is the former? It ain't the Democrats, or even the Left in general, that's for damn sure.