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In reply to the discussion: NY Magazine: NRA reminds gun-loving voters to fear everything [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)125. Gee, I wonder where the term "gun grabber" came from...

Oh, wait, that's too recent...
"In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation." Charles Krauthammer
We're going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest. . . . e'll have to start working again to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. . . . The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition-except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors-totally illegal.
Pete Shields, founder of Handgun Control, Inc. which is now the brady campaign
"Brady Bill is "the minimum step" that Congress should take to control handguns. "We need much stricter gun control, and eventually we should bar the ownership of handguns except in a few cases,"
Rep. William L. Clay D-St. Louis, Mo
I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about, is that it will happen one very small step at a time, so that by the time people have "woken up" to what's happened, it's gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the beginning of the banning of semi-assault military weapons, that are military weapons, not "household" weapons, is the first step."
Stockton, California Mayor Barbara Fass
"I shortly will introduce legislation banning the sale, manufacture or possession of handguns (with exceptions for law enforcement and licensed target clubs). . . . It is time to act. We cannot go on like this. Ban them!"
Sen. John H. Chafee R.-R.I., In View of Handguns' Effects, There's Only One Answer: A Ban, Minneapolis Star Tribune, June 15, 1992
""My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don't have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that's the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation."
Bobby Rush; Democrat, U.S. House of Representatives, Chicago Tribune, Dec. 5, 1999
"Mr. Speaker, my bill prohibits the importation, exportation, manufacture, sale, purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of handguns and handgun ammunition. It establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of handguns. It provides many exceptions for gun clubs, hunting clubs, gun collectors, and other people of that kind."
Rep. Major Owens (D-Brooklyn, N.Y.), 139 Cong. Rec. H9088 at H9094, Nov. 10, 1993
"I would like to dispute that. Truthfully. I know it's an amendment. I know it's in the Constitution. But you know what? Enough! I would like to say, I think there should be a law -- and I know this is extreme -- that no one can have a gun in the U.S. If you have a gun, you go to jail. Only the police should have guns."
Rosie Takes on the NRA, Ottawa Sun, April 29, 1999
"A gun-control movement worthy of the name would insist that President Clinton move beyond his proposals for controls -- such as expanding background checks at gun shows and stopping the import of high-capacity magazines -- and immediately call on Congress to pass far-reaching industry regulation like the Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act introduced by Senator Robert Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey, and Representative Patrick Kennedy, Democrat of Rhode Island. Their measure would give the Treasury Department health and safety authority over the gun industry, and any rational regulator with that authority would ban handguns."
Josh Sugarmann (executive director of the Violence Policy Center, Dispense With the Half Steps and Ban Killing Machines, Houston Chronicle, Nov. 5, 1999
"We will never fully solve our nation's horrific problem of gun violence unless we ban the manufacture and sale of handguns and semiautomatic assault weapons."
Jeff Muchnick, Legislative Director, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Better Yet, Ban All Handguns, USA Today, Dec. 29, 1993
"The goal of CSGV is the orderly elimination of the private sale of handguns and assault weapons in the United States."
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, http://www.csgv.org/content/coalition/coal_intro.html (visited June 20, 2000) (boldface added) ("The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence is composed of 44 civic, professional and religious organizations and 120,000 individual members that advocate for a ban on the sale and possession of handguns and assault weapons."
"We're bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns." Rahm Emmanuel
"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" Charles Schumer
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." Diane Feinstein
"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Howard Metzenbaum
"I am one who believes that as a first step the U.S. should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols and revolvers ...no one should have a right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun." Dean Morris
"I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by the police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state." Michael Dukakis
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them...'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it." Diane Feinstein
"No, we're not looking at how to control criminals ... we're talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns." --U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum
"What good does it do to ban some guns? All guns should be banned." U.S. Senator Howard Metzanbaum, Democrat from Ohio
"Until we can ban all of them , then we might as well ban none." U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, Senate Hearings 1993
"I'm not interested in getting a bill that deals with airport security... all I want to do is get at plastic guns." -U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1993
"Nobody should be owning a gun which does not have a sporting purpose." Janet Reno
"We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose." Major Owens
"If it were up to me we'd ban them all." Mel Reynolds CNN's Crossfire, December 9, 1993
Does that justify the term enough for you ?
I guess this means you're going to justify "gun fetishist" now, right?
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Actually, I think the gun-control side are equally guilty of mongering fear, using fear...
NYC_SKP
Oct 2014
#1
Then fuck the NRA and their distortion and twisting of the second amendment?
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#62
I'll go further, screw the NRA and those who sympathize with their promotion of gunz.
Hoyt
Nov 2014
#102
An unarmed elderly lady took him down.. Good guys with guns were of no direct help and indirectly
Hoyt
Nov 2014
#103
Gets you, doesn't it, to think an elderly lady did what all those gunz in your gun safes couldn't?
Hoyt
Nov 2014
#109
Yes. Those who are unarmed must sit and wait until opportunities beyond their control arise. nt
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2014
#33
Or they can carry guns and delude themselves that they're more in control than they are.
Orrex
Oct 2014
#58
Apparently you don't like the term. Perhaps this would be an excellent opportunity to
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2014
#34
"the intent is to equate such mythical people with anyone who...proposes sensible gun legislation"
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2014
#54
The 2A -- as written -- says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2014
#95
I see you're going with the 'ipse dixit'. Always a favorite choice...
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2014
#91
I've made no such claims beyond fairly obvious observations of what's been posted
Orrex
Oct 2014
#92
You have offered no argument beyond "I declare this to be so. It's obvious"
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2014
#93
You keep referring to me as a gun fetishist. You were called on it and asked to show your
Nuclear Unicorn
Nov 2014
#104
Gun control advocacy seems to attract self-proclaimed 'remote sensors'
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#115
'Remote' as in you haven't been able to detect that *I don't own a gun*...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#120
I have never claimed that you own a gun, nor I have claimed to diagnose psychoses
Orrex
Nov 2014
#121
Did you type that headline with a straight face? If so, I'd hate to sit across a poker table...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#123
"bullshit demand for "telepsychology" credentials" Can you also kill goats with your mind?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#113
I'm volleying back what I've been served. If you don't care for it, you are free to...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#118
Being ignored by someone who claims that a person that does not own a gun...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#122
It also requires no authority to point out that certain posters get a might testy...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2014
#100
Bookmarking. Mind if I employ your bag of hammers the next time the complaint arises? nt
Nuclear Unicorn
Nov 2014
#127
It also led to companies like Magpul moving their businesses out of state with the resulting
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#27
All those are still in exisistence, just not in the sheer numbers of days gone by.
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#68
You're claiming victory for a magazine capacity law the sheriffs have said cannot and will not
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2014
#35
On January 20, 2017, the nation's gun dealers will go into a state of mourning
jmowreader
Oct 2014
#30
The Declaration of Independence has something . . No one has a right to infringe on my
leanforward
Oct 2014
#31
No one is infringing on your right. You're choosing to be afraid of people who have no interest in
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2014
#36
You think? I've read the gun manufacturers' profits went through the roof when Obama became
Cha
Oct 2014
#45
Yes, Hillary has an even longer record with voting for increased gun restrictions
aikoaiko
Oct 2014
#47
Coumo and NY's gun laws made Remington decide to expand production elsewhere
Lurks Often
Oct 2014
#52