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91. "I don't really care about his safety"

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:36 PM

Apr 2012

I didn't put those words in your mouth. You don't care if he gets killed in jail. That's what you said and that's what you think. Own it. Don't weasel around it now. (and hell, it's not just you, it appears to be the majority position at DU). Here's the fucked up thing about your point of view: You don't lose any of your empathy for the Martins by not espousing vigilante "justice" for his alleged killer and, conversely, not wishing violence on Zimmerman has nothing at all to do with "liking" him. You feel strongly that Zimmerman is guilty and deserves punishment. So people that you don't like, well, karma's a bitch right? I'm guessing if David Duke suggested that white detainees should kill all black detainees because he really doesn't like them, you would think that was really fucked up. Yet somehow, because WE hate Zimmerman, such an otherwise brutal and insane suggestion is cool. Funny even.

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Zimmerman: Afraid of Being in Jail [View all] SteveABG Apr 2012 OP

yeah, well JI7 Apr 2012 #1

good response. +1. robinlynne Apr 2012 #5

Yep. HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author robinlynne Apr 2012 #2

Not such a big man without your firearm and cell phone now are we, George... Earth_First Apr 2012 #3

Touche. calimary Apr 2012 #105

George you stupid murdering bastid madokie Apr 2012 #4

What's wrong George Politicalboi Apr 2012 #6

Well, that's what "ad seg" is for. bayareamike Apr 2012 #7

DU really seems to have a blind spot when it coms to prison violence RZM Apr 2012 #8

Eh, they wouldn't be suspects if they weren't guilty.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #10

Indeed...it is disturbing to the core, but par for the course alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #11

i don't think anyone here would oppose prison reform JI7 Apr 2012 #14

Unforunately RZM Apr 2012 #53

Short of isolating every single prisoner Bake Apr 2012 #60

Very true! And that means REAL prison reform, that actually addresses some of the problems. calimary Apr 2012 #107

Totally agree. It's barbaric dballance Apr 2012 #15

thanks for saying this handmade34 Apr 2012 #20

I in no way condone violence in prison but I do find it amusing in a cynical way that Zimmy is... uppityperson Apr 2012 #28

And that's the trouble RZM Apr 2012 #33

Prison violence is a fact of life at this point. DevonRex Apr 2012 #35

Zimmerman is in protective custody in the jail csziggy Apr 2012 #38

If a scumbag who murdered a family in one cell wants to beat the shit out of a child rapist snooper2 Apr 2012 #61

And if that same scumbag beats the shit out of a guy in there for smoking a joint? EOTE Apr 2012 #64

Do you have a case of somebody doing hard prison time for smoking a joint? snooper2 Apr 2012 #66

I guess it depends on your definition of "hard time". EOTE Apr 2012 #67

You do know that local jail, vs. county, vs. state pen, vs. federal snooper2 Apr 2012 #69

So, if the appropriate class of criminal is locked up, rape is fine. EOTE Apr 2012 #70

First off, as a concern I said it wasn't real high on my priority list... snooper2 Apr 2012 #71

So you simply don't care if prisoners get rape. EOTE Apr 2012 #77

Care is a subjective word... snooper2 Apr 2012 #79

You're not interested in a conversation, just defending your awfulness. EOTE Apr 2012 #81

So you don't want to take me up on my offer? snooper2 Apr 2012 #85

You do know that a person who jokes around about the misery of others is a psychopath, right? EOTE Apr 2012 #89

you are cute.. snooper2 Apr 2012 #90

yes Go Vols Apr 2012 #109

I imagine that even in those circumstances in which we rationalize our absolute lack of empathy LanternWaste Apr 2012 #83

I survived federal prison anti-alec Apr 2012 #62

Rape is generally not part of the sentence handed down by the judge. amandabeech Apr 2012 #63

In some countries 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #68

I agree Becka2515 Apr 2012 #80

You are absolutely correct. n/t rudycantfail Apr 2012 #126

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time jpak Apr 2012 #9

You may want to wait for the trial 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #22

you feel the same when we talk about Bush, Cheney etc ? JI7 Apr 2012 #27

I always love advice from someone who signed up just before lunch today DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #36

A site that welcomes comments 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #59

I did, in fact, post a first comment at this site DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #86

My but we're condescending 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #101

You are correct, and I'm not DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #112

No hard feelings 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #118

Pretty damn good advice DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #93

Hard to argue with an attorney. Point taken. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #95

Well, the one thing we know is that vigilante justice was acceptable for Trayvon according to Ecumenist Apr 2012 #46

2nd degree murder charges 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #58

I agree wholeheartedly. EOTE Apr 2012 #65

WTF??!! Where the hell did you deduce that I didn't want this "man" to have a trial? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #73

You're the one who called it 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #102

Grow up, don't try to play with me. You know Damn well I was speaking about Ecumenist Apr 2012 #103

I'm not twisting your words 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #104

Well, at least you understand when you're being yelled at. There's hope for you. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #108

You know what? MountainMama Apr 2012 #110

MountainMama? You know what, dear lady? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #114

You really think yelling constantly is healthy? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #120

Since you seem determined to tell me I siad things I didn't, I will just say this one MORE TIME: Ecumenist Apr 2012 #121

I understand you. MountainMama Apr 2012 #125

It's nice to have the right-wingers at the receiving end of that for a change. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #45

No, it's not, not if you're a human being for Christ's sake. It's remarks coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #57

Um, nobody has been found guilty yet. NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #106

Now he knows what Trayvon felt like when he followed and accosted him. appleannie1 Apr 2012 #12

I expect he's going to be at risk anywhere. man4allcats Apr 2012 #16

Maybe the impulsive little bastard should have thought of that before MoonRiver Apr 2012 #17

+1000 nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #25

Amazing how these big tough bullies are always cowards when cornered malaise Apr 2012 #18

Just stand your ground, George. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #19

Bingo! patricia92243 Apr 2012 #40

And watch behind you if you drop the soap in the shower. n/t RebelOne Apr 2012 #43

Prison rape jokes are not funny. Would you please consider deleting this comment, I will also. uppityperson Apr 2012 #55

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #123

Murderers deserve to get raped. Thank you for making your opinion clear. uppityperson Apr 2012 #124

I'm having a hard time mustering up any sympathy for this jerk. Booster Apr 2012 #21

With neighbors like Zimmerman obxhead Apr 2012 #29

I heard Trayvon, his brother and dad were at the fiance's house watching t.v. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #30

No SteveABG Apr 2012 #32

Trayvon's father's fiance was interviewed the day after the death by the local Fox News station csziggy Apr 2012 #39

Thank you for that explanation. I had not seen that info before. I know I read that Trayvon's body Booster Apr 2012 #47

Yes, the body was listed as a Joh Doe - the police did not even canvas the neighborhood csziggy Apr 2012 #50

This. MountainMama Apr 2012 #111

Well second thing I believe George on nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #23

If he thinks life in solitary at the county lock-up is scary... left on green only Apr 2012 #24

Our gun culture told him he wouldn't go to jail for his actions... sadbear Apr 2012 #26

What? No confidence in the FL justice system to keep him secure in his person while he MADem Apr 2012 #31

Boo hoo. Karma's a bitch. -nt CakeGrrl Apr 2012 #34

Exactly shanti Apr 2012 #52

I would imagine they'll do their best to keep him isolated varelse Apr 2012 #37

"So he�s concerned because he�s exposed to many people he doesn�t even know" Morning Dew Apr 2012 #41

Yeah, this isn't a new problem for him. baldguy Apr 2012 #51

And Taryvon Martin was scared when you shot and killed him. But that didn't stop you. vaberella Apr 2012 #42

He didn't know Trayvon , yet he wasn't afraid to shoot him...I say karma's a b!tch! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #44

He's a squirrely ass coward. alphafemale Apr 2012 #48

Everybody's missing the point. His lawyer is setting Solomon Apr 2012 #49

Take the gun away from him and let him out on the streets. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #54

Zimmy has a better chance surviving prison than Trayvon had surviving Zimmy. nt Raine Apr 2012 #56

Ask me if I care. KamaAina Apr 2012 #72

All of you that are saying "Ha. Good. You deserve it. I hope you get killed in jail" are fucked up DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #74

Nobody, at least not me, is saying justice will be served by that. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #82

Hopefully it's empathy and not sympathy DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #87

I'm not saying he's bad I'm good. Don't put words in my mouth. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #88

"I don't really care about his safety" DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #91

I don't care. That doesn't mean I'd join a lynch mob to hang him. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #94

So what? DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #96

We're not even talking about his actual safety... ellisonz Apr 2012 #99

Charles Blow said it best: SteveABG Apr 2012 #84

I don't see flippant attitudes here so much as anger and indignation. calimary Apr 2012 #117

Tough shit, Georgie. hifiguy Apr 2012 #75

And everybody else Aerows Apr 2012 #76

I'm sorry. I can't scrape up any sympathy for this guy. HappyMe Apr 2012 #78

Well, Zimmerman is an "afraid" person, isn't he. Liberal In Texas Apr 2012 #92

Damn. You hit that one. His daddy shouldn't have Solomon Apr 2012 #122

I'm sure he is. Jail is not nice. He should have considered that MineralMan Apr 2012 #97

But, but, but accordin' to fauxnooz, Trayvon circled back and confronted him at his car Ecumenist Apr 2012 #115

�So he�s concerned because he�s exposed to many people he doesn�t even know� ellisonz Apr 2012 #98

Put him in ad seg and tell him to shut the hell up. Luciferous Apr 2012 #100

Did Trayvon Know His Shooter otohara Apr 2012 #113

I don't want him harmed or killed but Ineeda Apr 2012 #116

Only a whacko wouldn't be. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #119