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32. One need look no further than Norway or Sweden to see how a humane nation behaves

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:32 PM

Nov 2014

to see how a humane nation treats its misfits. nutters, and criminals.

The Norwegian prison where inmates are treated like people
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people

Why is Sweden Closing it's Prisons?
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/01/why-sweden-closing-prisons

This is not rocket science. Cruelty and vindictiveness has never helped anyone, and never will IMHO,.

The track record of these two nations (among others) provides all the evidence anyone should need to prove this beyond a shadow of doubt .. unless of course someone has other reasons for wanting cruelty and vindictiveness to be wielded against the poor, the desperate and criminals who happen to be black or hispanic

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