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Dont call me Shirley

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76. That would be a wonderful lame duck surprise!

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:41 AM

Nov 2014

Many times, when these programs that started in B admin explode into the public awareness, O has handled them with great skill. The gops just keep screaming about them until people look at them like they are a big joke. They don't stick onto O, they slam right back into the gops faces.

Let's just list all the scandals they have tried to shift blame onto to O:

Benghazi
IRS
Fast n furious
NSA spying
Please add more...

The gops did the very same thing to Clinton. They use the same MO until the masses are onto their shill game. Look at the big picture, MO is always the same.

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The Obama administration came up with this on their own: OnyxCollie Nov 2014 #110

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City code. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #16

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