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Warpy

(114,620 posts)
11. It's pure conflation and fear mongering
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:50 PM
Nov 2014

Cost driven denial of care and end of life decisions are separate issues and need to be discussed separately.

Cost driven denial of care has been partially addressed by the ACA. It needs to be more fully addressed, either by driving health insurance companies back into the nonprofit sphere or by obliterating them completely in favor of single payer.

End of life decisions, up to and including physician assisted suicide, are now and should be under the control of the person facing severe illness and the end of life. People who are still healthy might assemble the means but few use them until they become miserable. Few use them overall, as most manage to die without hurrying it along, just knowing a quick end was there if it got too hard was enough to ease their way.

Part of the resistance to such measures is the very normal fear of death experienced by people who are healthy. Such fear no longer is a consideration among most of the terminally ill.

The author is also projecting "so much to live for" onto Maynard at the end of the article. No, dear, she didn't have so much to live for, even though she was under 30. I've seen what stage IV glioblastoma multiforme does to people. I would also choose to avoid it if I could.

I would tell the anti euthanasia people the same thing I tell the antichoice crusaders: mind your own fucking business. However, if you want to take on cost driven denial of care to people who want it, I'll be right there with you.

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It is called Old Codger Nov 2014 #1
Um, the late Ms. Maynard flocked to Oregon KamaAina Nov 2014 #17
I believe "flocking" refers to the phenomenon of large numbers of people Maedhros Nov 2014 #27
Yet. KamaAina Nov 2014 #29
We can't blame Ms. Maynard for the excesses of the tabloid industry. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #30
my opinion Skittles Nov 2014 #2
I think it's the strawberries Nov 2014 #3
Highlights some very real issues RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #4
Do we know that this is actually what's happening? nt FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #14
Yes. KamaAina Nov 2014 #18
Also, here: Maedhros Nov 2014 #28
Thank you for the links. nt FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #35
I think what i always think when health insurance companies are involved CBGLuthier Nov 2014 #5
Yep I figured that out some decades ago Kalidurga Nov 2014 #9
The author addresses a point which sometimes concerns me LanternWaste Nov 2014 #6
The part on insurance companies should be illegal Kalidurga Nov 2014 #7
My body, my choice HERVEPA Nov 2014 #8
Disingenuous in that it's RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #10
Most, but by no means all KamaAina Nov 2014 #19
It's pure conflation and fear mongering Warpy Nov 2014 #11
Well said. nt FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #15
"For people dying in discomfort, palliative sedation can relieve their pain." Discomfort?! Hekate Nov 2014 #12
No worries, my dear Hekate..........I got it! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #13
They withheld pain meds for my father for fear it would stop his breathing. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #22
Obscenity that treatment to the nth obscenity. Hekate Nov 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author csziggy Nov 2014 #32
I know for a fact that assisted "relief from pain" happens .. BlueJazz Nov 2014 #16
In case you're wondering, the author is at least as progressive as I am KamaAina Nov 2014 #20
Have you ever seen someone die from Glioblastoma? NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #21
No, I have not. KamaAina Nov 2014 #23
Many doctors won't do that even if it wasn't at risk. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #24
"Doctors are trained to prolong life, no matter what." KamaAina Nov 2014 #25
There are always exceptions. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #26
They need better training ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author csziggy Nov 2014 #34
I hadn't considered the insurance company aspects Nevernose Nov 2014 #33
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