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Hekate

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12. "For people dying in discomfort, palliative sedation can relieve their pain." Discomfort?!
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:56 PM
Nov 2014

"Discomfort" sounds like something you take Aleve for. How about Tylenol with Codeine after minor surgery? My oral surgeon gives me a double dose of Ibuprofen after a root canal -- those are "discomfort" medications.

People who talk like that give me an ulcer.

How about agonizing pain that doesn't resolve with "palliative sedation"? How about someone with an otherwise strong and healthy body who is capable (with feeding tubes and a respirator) of continuing to breathe for many more months while their brain is consumed, they suffer crippling pain, lose control of all voluntary bodily functions, and their personality changes beyond recognition? If I get a diagnosis like that (gods forbid) I should hope I have time to make the jump to Oregon.

You think I'm afraid of comfort care and assistance for the disabled and/or helpless? No. I am not. One of our friends lived with MD for decades and decades. For a woman who was essentially a "talking head" from the time we met her, needing assistance for every aspect of her life, she surely lived an active and full life. Studied Persian poetry. Was out and about as an activist for the local disabled community, served on at least one board, testified at public meetings, had friends over, came to meetings of a club we both belonged to as long as she was able. It was cancer that finally killed her in her 50s, and did that ever piss her off. She still had things to do. (RIP Linda: you remain an example to all who knew you.)

If the author's issue is with the insurance companies, then by all means go after the sons of bitches with guns blazing. But don't take away the option that Brittany Maynard availed herself of and condemn others like her to a hideous and prolonged death. If you think a death like that is "God's will" then by all means make that decision for yourself, but not for me and not for others.

PS:
My dear Peggy: I am using "you" in the generic plural sense. I am not in any sense ascribing to your compassionate self the particular qualities that have made me so angry.
Hekate

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It is called Old Codger Nov 2014 #1
Um, the late Ms. Maynard flocked to Oregon KamaAina Nov 2014 #17
I believe "flocking" refers to the phenomenon of large numbers of people Maedhros Nov 2014 #27
Yet. KamaAina Nov 2014 #29
We can't blame Ms. Maynard for the excesses of the tabloid industry. [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #30
my opinion Skittles Nov 2014 #2
I think it's the strawberries Nov 2014 #3
Highlights some very real issues RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #4
Do we know that this is actually what's happening? nt FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #14
Yes. KamaAina Nov 2014 #18
Also, here: Maedhros Nov 2014 #28
Thank you for the links. nt FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #35
I think what i always think when health insurance companies are involved CBGLuthier Nov 2014 #5
Yep I figured that out some decades ago Kalidurga Nov 2014 #9
The author addresses a point which sometimes concerns me LanternWaste Nov 2014 #6
The part on insurance companies should be illegal Kalidurga Nov 2014 #7
My body, my choice HERVEPA Nov 2014 #8
Disingenuous in that it's RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #10
Most, but by no means all KamaAina Nov 2014 #19
It's pure conflation and fear mongering Warpy Nov 2014 #11
Well said. nt FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #15
"For people dying in discomfort, palliative sedation can relieve their pain." Discomfort?! Hekate Nov 2014 #12
No worries, my dear Hekate..........I got it! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #13
They withheld pain meds for my father for fear it would stop his breathing. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #22
Obscenity that treatment to the nth obscenity. Hekate Nov 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author csziggy Nov 2014 #32
I know for a fact that assisted "relief from pain" happens .. BlueJazz Nov 2014 #16
In case you're wondering, the author is at least as progressive as I am KamaAina Nov 2014 #20
Have you ever seen someone die from Glioblastoma? NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #21
No, I have not. KamaAina Nov 2014 #23
Many doctors won't do that even if it wasn't at risk. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #24
"Doctors are trained to prolong life, no matter what." KamaAina Nov 2014 #25
There are always exceptions. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #26
They need better training ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author csziggy Nov 2014 #34
I hadn't considered the insurance company aspects Nevernose Nov 2014 #33
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