On the eve of this election, there's something I need your help to understand

[hfojvt]

125. Where to begin?

1. "We stand for these things or we don't"

The WE was never all that united, not even when Bush was President. The collective WE, whatever that is, stands for a lot of things. Your own short list there is not what I would list as my top priorities. So there's that. I mean, I am cool if you want to bash Obama for something or other, but not so cool when some want to charge hypocrisy because everybody here does not jump on their bandwagon. And heck, 2008 was a long time ago. We have some six year members here who have been here quite a while and are popular and well-known, but who were not part of the WE when Bush was president. Other popular and well-known members of the ancient WE, are no longer with us.

2. Is posting on DU going to make a difference?

If it isn't then why do it? I joined this group as therapy after the 2004 election. I needed a support group of allies. Presumably we would support each other and also work together to oppose Bush and the Republican agenda. See, THAT was supposed to be something we agreed on - defeating Republicans. Of course, we also had a large and vocal contingent of Greens who sometimes did not see a dime's worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats. You'd think that those people would be on board with defeating Republicans, but sometimes it seems like they were not, in spite of their large portions of agreements with liberal Democrats.

So we always spent a lot of time fighting with each other instead of fighting to defeat Republicans and to defeat conservadems like Lieberman. (ahem http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/39)

Again, does it make a difference? Could DU have helped to defeat Lieberman if more of us had put more energy into doing so? Maybe it is the serenity prayer. My posts here may not make a difference in defeating a Republican like Dave Spence, but at least I tried.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1061299

In other ways, I think DU could (and should) be a place on the internets where people can learn how much Republican policies suck. Much of the public does not seem to either understand that or believe that. Perhaps we could help to inform them (ahem - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025697641 and is that going to make a difference? Maybe it would if it got 100 recs and 3,000 views and made the front page of DU)

As might this - "debunking the Laffer curve"
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/53


I mean sometimes there are well intentioned Democrats who think the Fair Tax is a good idea. Would it help if when people googled "fair tax" this showed up on the first page of results? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1690043&mesg_id=1695544

I don't think it would hurt.

Anyway that is MY take on what DU should do and be. It would be a place where visitors would learn how much Republicans and Republican ideas suck (even when practiced by supposed Democrats http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x814319)

DU does NOT need to be a place where visitors can learn what a POS used car salesman an elected Democrat is.

Okay, that may not be the best example. It's not like you are the only offender. Consider 2007. Democrats had taken the House and Pelosi was the speaker. Very quickly GD became sort of a subforum which could have been called GD-bash Pelosi. What were getting the most recs, the most views, were post after post after post saying how awful Pelosi and the Democratic Party were. Same thing happened after 2009 when Obama was elected. Post after post saying how bad Obama and Democrats were. If you wanted to find out how awful Obama was, then DU was the place to go http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/121

Of course, that was before he had crossed my own personal Rubicon and extended the Bush tax cuts.

Hmm, maybe that should be a "RubiNcon" http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022085948